We have to talk about these Pakistani gangs

The Manchester abuse scandal shows what a horrendous impact political correctness can have.

Brendan O'Neill

Brendan O'Neill

This week, we have seen the true toll of political correctness. PC isn’t just irritating or stupid. It isn’t just woke students banning sombreros or schools getting iffy about ‘Baa Baa Black Sheep’. PC destroys lives.

A report into police and council failings in Manchester has found that gangs of predominantly Pakistani men were free to abuse up to 57 girls after chief cops and local officials turned a blind eye to this foul, cruel behaviour. Why did they turn away? Partly out of fear of stoking racial tensions. Partly because they were worried that drawing attention to the grooming and exploitation of mostly white working-class girls by Asian men might ‘incite racial hatred’ and damage multicultural relations.

Let’s put it plainly: they sacrificed girls to political correctness; they thought that preserving the ideology of multiculturalism was more important than protecting girls from harm.

The independent review into grooming and abuse in Manchester in the mid-2000s, published yesterday, makes for grim reading. It says there were up to 57 victims, mostly white girls aged between 12 and 16, and 97 potential perpetrators, mostly men of ‘Asian heritage’. The review makes clear, from some of the evidence it acquired, that some of the abuse networks were made up of ‘predominantly Pakistani men’. That is, similar to Rotherham, Telford and other parts of the UK, this was a case involving what is sometimes referred to as a Muslim grooming gang.

The girls were groomed, sexually abused, plied with drugs and raped. They suffered, in the review’s words, ‘the most profound abuse and exploitation’. But little was done to help them. Their abusers were not brought to justice. And this catastrophic failing was in part fuelled by what the review refers to as Greater Manchester Police’s concerns about ‘sensitive community issues’. As one news report summarises it, the police were ‘keen not to be seen targeting [a] minority group’. As a result of this PC cowardice, of this mad multicultural sensitivity, the abuse continued.

The review focuses on the tragic case of Victoria Agoglia, a 15-year-old girl in the care of Manchester social services who died from a heroin overdose in 2003. Social services were aware that Victoria was being exploited. She was being injected with heroin by the gangs who used and abused her. She reported being raped. Scandalously, little was done to assist her. Following her death, the coroner said she was known ‘to provide sexual favours’ – a repulsive way of describing the sexual abuse of an underage girl by older men. As the independent review says, such a view of Victoria and her tragic fate ‘significantly underplays the coercion and control’ and ‘harrowing experience’ she was subjected to.

Think about this: we live in a time in which a middle-class woman’s complaint about overhearing a sexist joke or having a hand briefly placed on her knee becomes a huge scandal and can even dominate news coverage, and yet a vulnerable working-class girl can experience horrendous genuine abuse and a coroner, influenced by the view of social services, will refer to it as ‘sexual favours’.

Greater Manchester Police launched Operation Augusta following Victoria’s death. They identified 57 victims and 97 potential perpetrators. Yet hardly any of these people were brought to justice and their ‘activities [were not] disrupted’, as the review says. That is, they carried on abusing. Operation Augusta was wrapped up early and resources were devoted to other, less ‘sensitive’ crimes. As the review says, ‘The authorities knew that many were being subjected to the most profound abuse and exploitation but did not protect them from the perpetrators’.

This is a scandal of epic proportions. The very organisations that are charged with looking after young people who are at risk of abuse failed to do their duty. And they failed to do their duty because they did not want to ruffle community feathers; because they believed, as so much of the establishment does, that ordinary Britons are a vile racist throng and if we hear about an Asian grooming gang we will go crazy. They let their ideology – their commitment to political correctness and to multicultural censorship – distract them from the task of protecting girls from ‘the most profound abuse and exploitation’.

The silence around grooming gangs, in which largely Muslim men abuse largely white working-class girls, has gone on long enough. We need a serious debate about this.

And yet even discussing it is difficult. People are branded racist if they bring it up. You’re an Islamophobe if you talk about the background of most of these men. Sarah Champion was thrown out of the shadow cabinet for daring to write about gangs of Pakistani men abusing girls in her constituency of Rotherham. Corbynistas and Muslim groups accused her of racism.

This unwillingness to talk about, never mind take seriously, the abuse of hundreds of white working-class girls across the country can also be seen in the response to the Manchester scandal. As some people are pointing out, many of today’s newspapers have not led with this story in the way we should expect them to, given it is a huge social and political scandal. What’s more, feminists, so-called progressives and the allegedly pro-working-class left are silent about the whole thing.

There are no hashtags. There is no #MeToo solidarity for these abused girls. There are no expressions of concern from the left. Just shameful, cowardly silence. ‘Make it go away’, is the attitude of these people. Indeed, this week we have had the truly grotesque spectacle of lefties expressing more concern for a duchess, Meghan Markle, than for 57 working-class girls who suffered ‘profound abuse’. They’ve shed more tears over a few rude headlines about the painfully privileged Duchess of Sussex than they have over the revelation that working-class girls were degraded in the most awful way because the authorities couldn’t be bothered to help them.

All day yesterday the chattering classes were droning on about ‘white privilege’ while ignoring the reports about white, mostly poor girls in Manchester being abused. The cognitive dissonance is complete: ‘All white people have privilege’, they cry, as a review reveals the abuse and rape of white girls by mostly Pakistani gangs.

We have to talk about this. We have to talk about how officialdom’s shameful reluctance to investigate these kinds of cases allowed the abuse to continue. We have to talk about how the cultural elite’s silence on these crimes further denigrates the victims, treating them as if they are unworthy of public sympathy. We have to talk about how the new elite’s denigration of white working-class communities as backward and stupid and trashy could well inflame some people’s view of these communities as unimportant, as worthy of abuse. And we have to talk about how the ideology of multiculturalism, the PC unwillingness to look community tensions and divisions in the face, is harming the country.

If we don’t talk about this, far-right elements will continue to make mileage from this issue, girls will continue being abused, and society’s divisions will never be tackled. Only honesty and firmness can stop these things from happening again.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show. Subscribe to the podcast here. And find Brendan on Instagram: @burntoakboy

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21st January 2020 at 4:33 pm

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nick hunt

19th January 2020 at 5:07 pm

Imagine if the ethnic and religious identities of villains and victims in this horrific saga were reversed. What would the media outrage be like, and what actions would government immediately adopt?

Michael Lynch

18th January 2020 at 10:15 pm

Above the front entrance to the Old Bailey, writ large in stone, it states ‘Defend the Children of the Poor & Punish the Wrongdoer’. The building was rebuilt and opened in 1902 by King Edward VII so it’s hardly an out of date, or quaint, concept. Surely now, after yet more damning revelations, the press must ask if the current guardians and upholders of British Law no longer consider this a valid, or a basic tenet? If not they should take it down or cover it up. I actually rather hope it falls down upon all their heads. I cannot see how they can enter this building without averting their eyes in abject shame. The population have now sent a clear message to the establishment; time is up on identity politics, political correctness and diversity ideology. The Law MUST now be made above politics, the LAW must now be applied without fear or favor. Nothing else will do.

David Marrington

18th January 2020 at 9:52 pm

The difficulty is getting past the PC thought police. My Twitter account has just been suspended on the basis of “hate speech” because, in commenting on this issue, I used the phrase “Muslim rape gangs”. And Islam IS the common thread. For example, in Bristol in 2016, the convicted rape gang members were Somali refugees. In Sweden and Denmark the gangs are from the Middle East. Non-Muslim women are viewed by these gangs as loose and fair game.

Jahanzeb Kayani

18th January 2020 at 7:25 am

This is honestly so sad and this is coming from a Pakistani Muslim. I believe the police should take action and send everyone involved to jail because they are ruining the names for 5 million muslims. We reject them as part of the muslim community and it is totally against an everyday muslim including mines own values.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 9:51 am

So your worry is about the reputation of 5 million Muslims rather than the rape of thousands of white girls… Do you not see the issue of what you have just stated ?


18th January 2020 at 3:58 pm

Islam is a vulgar, dangerous and irrational death cult that is diametrically opposed to the revelation of God in Christ. Read the New Testament and find out how Christ reconciled man to God.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 11:27 pm

Do you self flagellate?

Eva Prior

18th January 2020 at 6:03 pm

Totally agree @ Jerry Owen. Furthermore, if the majority of Muslims were against the systematic rape of non-Muslim women by Muslim men, these majority Muslims would have rooted out the problem. I have never witnessed any Muslims holding rallies or demonstrating against the actions of these Muslim men.

Islam uses the practice of raping non Muslim women as one of its tenets of war against its enemies. It’s a cowardly practice encouraged in the Koran. Sikh and Hindu girls have been abused in this manner since the sixties.

Reproducing at a greater rate than the indigenous population, increasing their numbers in Politics at all levels of government and in MSM are all used as a part of the strategy to spread islamofascism across the world.

Islam is not a religion. It’s a parasitic, misogynystic, homophobic, and fascist cult.

Aunty Podes

18th January 2020 at 2:04 am

It’s good to see how much traffic in comment this topic has raised.

This is due to what they call PROGRESSIVE …
This is due to what they call SOCIALISM …
This is due to what they call GLOBALISM …
This is due to what they call MULTICULTURALISM …

This is due to what I call CONTROL/LEFT/FREAKISM …
This is due to what I call PURE EVIL!

Dun Can

18th January 2020 at 1:31 am

It’s all still going on, taxis still ferry the broken and brainwashed girls around Manchester every night. You think it’s bad in Rochdale but the true story of the rape of central Manchester will never come out.

Jack Enright

18th January 2020 at 12:53 am

@Little Black Sambo:
“the “far right” (who ever they are) are an irrelevance to this subject. (a) they scarcely exist and (b) our troubles come from a quite different direction.”

Jack Enright

18th January 2020 at 12:52 am

We need to do a LOT more than talk about it, Brendan. ALL of those culpable should be charged with aiding and abetting child rape – and, when convicted, face very lond sentences in prison with NO early release.
The government, Parliament as a whole, Labour polticians in particular, the police and the judiciary face a simple choice.
Do your bloody jobs, or vigilantes will do the job for you.
And don’t tell me “vigilantes couldn’t happen in Britain”. To my personal knowledge, they already have.


17th January 2020 at 7:24 pm

No one questions who are responsible for the “grooming”. They are all well known and yet neither their compatriots nor the police are willing to do anything to stop it. It is an untenable situation that the authorities neglect at their peril.

Chris A

17th January 2020 at 9:20 pm

Can also take exception to the term ‘ruffling community relations’. The solidarity of the Muslim Pakistani community would be expressed in riots, not ruffles. It’s mob rule, not PC. The centre of gravity for justice has been picked up and moved bodily, and only an equivalently forceful move will shift it back. BDS corner shops and takeaways for a start, and take apart the welfare state.

Cedar Grove

18th January 2020 at 12:42 am

Actually, Nazir Afsal, the former Crown Prosecutor, has consistently spoken out about this, & when such events were known about in northern towns, but not yet recognised by the legal system, he went to speak to ” community elders” to try to get them to stop the grooming and trafficking.

That he asked in vain was not his fault.

Neil McCaughan

17th January 2020 at 5:27 pm

The word “groom” appears on this page 26 times.

These Pakistanis weren’t combing the children’s hair. They were raping them. With the active collusion of councillors, council officials, social workers and the police.

Can we have a little more honesty please.

Noel Mac

17th January 2020 at 5:48 pm

Correct. Grooming what? It’s rape. End of. Surprised this writer uses the term the left use to try to gloss over the facts

Vanessa Hudson

17th January 2020 at 6:30 pm

Just to add to your comment, these girls weren’t just being raped, they were being viciously gang raped and beaten.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:34 pm

And there were far, far more – many times more – than 97 of them.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 3:38 pm

Just add to your comment, they were also threatened with death if they told anyone!


17th January 2020 at 11:32 pm

Well said, Neil. These are Pakistani paedo racists whose culture and/or religion appears to sanction the racist abuse of vulnerable young white girls. I bet the local mosques did f*** all to stop this.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 9:54 am

That’s quite an astute point .. ‘grooming’ is actually a precursor to something else.

Neil McCaughan

17th January 2020 at 5:19 pm

Political correctness had nothing to do with it.

These children’s bodies were traded by Labour politicians for Pakistani votes.

Skeptik Eye

17th January 2020 at 11:33 am

This and other reasons is why I will never ever again vote for Labour. They have ceased listening to the British working class who voted for from a belief that they [Labour] would make it a more fairer society. What gets lost in all this is that this young girls (children really) were trafficked around to other towns for the sexual gratification of other Muslim men and that this has been going on for decades. The victims that have come forward in these cases are just the tip of a massive iceberg and it is estimated that thousands of young vulnerable girls have been victims of these Muslim rape gangs. I would hazard a guess that there will be mobile phone footage of this rape and abuse and it will be circulating among the wider community and probably in Pakistan and other Muslim countries. My suggestion is that any convicted Muslim men if they have dual passports be sent to that second country and never allowed entry back into the UK. These incidents barely rate a mention on prime time BBC news and scant reporting in our national newspapers compared to the allegations around Prince Andrew. Those in the main stream media should hang their heads in shame.

Jill W

17th January 2020 at 11:03 am

Maggie Oliver trying to break a deafening silence around heinous crimes didn’t stand a chance against those more concerned with micro-aggression and unconscious bias. Rather than amity the result is resentment and division.
And this recent fashion of many high minded, constantly saying ‘truth to power’ but failing to alert us – ‘please read the small print – might not apply to all……..’…….
“I think there are two ways in which people are controlled. First of all, frighten people and secondly, demoralise them.” ― Tony Benn

Michael Lynch

17th January 2020 at 12:51 am

Brendan, brave article and brave use of the word Pakistani. But how sad that we have to live in a world where we feel we are being brave just because we point out the obvious and something that is factual. I don’t believe that there is a far right cohort in Britain; this is just looney left fantasy. So please stop referring to it’s existence because the electorate has dispelled this myth. The center ground in politics has shifted dramatically back to where it belongs and left wing liberals now have to reset their own boundaries to suit this new position. If not, they are going to look increasingly ridiculous as time moves on. To turn May’s 2017 mantra on its head – everything has changed now, EVERYTHING! Time’s up on identity politics.

Glenn Bell

17th January 2020 at 12:48 am

I have many friends who are Muslim from Asia and the middle east, none of them would ever be party to any sort of abuse, theyre just normal people with families and jobs. Not all Muslim people are bad, just as not all white Christians are racists, its the extremist minorities on both sides who, when caught should be severely punished for their deeds, but that isn’t pc, is it?

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:40 pm

“Extremist minorities on both sides.” Christians are not justified by Christian teaching to do anything bad. Moslems can say they are doing the will of allah, or at least doing what is permitted, since non-moslems are worthless and scarcely human. Fortunately most moslems are not too knowledgeable about their own faith, or are luke warm in obedience. Unfortunately many Christians are not good at following the teaching of Christ. There is NO SYMMETRY in this matter, and talking about “both sides” will not create it.

Cedar Grove

18th January 2020 at 1:03 am

It’s childish to say that not all Muslims are bad people, as if anyone was denying it. But it’s not relevant.

The issue is whether a particular culture inculcates in its young men the idea that any partially uncovered female body is his for the taking. That’s a political matter, with a political solution.

Men from cultures other than Pakistani Muslim also violate children. But Muslims of Pakistani ethnicity are disproportionately involved in the intercity trafficking of young white girls, & their crimes have been tolerated by the authorities.

Mind Wizard

17th January 2020 at 12:36 am

The South Manchester case is appalling – not just for the rape of children but for the determination amongst the liberal elite not to confront the uncomfortable fact that the perpetrators are nearly all Muslim men of Pakistani extraction.

The response to this case speaks for itself. The perpetrators are, once again, described by the media as “Asian” rather than Pakistani – which comes of something of an insult to those of us who are Sri Lankan, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Chinese or Cambodian. And worse, the media coverage of the South Manchester rape gang report deliberately ignores multiple other rape trials and convictions of Muslim men in the last few weeks alone.

7 January 2020: three Pakistani-origin men – Naim Khan, 41, Mohammed Nazir, 44, and Raheem Ahmed, 42 – convicted of sexually abusing and raping a girl in Oxford when she was aged between 13 and 15.

8 January: nine men, mostly from Sheffield, went on trial accused of raping a vulnerable teenage girl between the ages of 15 and 17. The names of the accused – mostly Kurdish Muslims in this case – include Usman Din, Kamaran Mahmoodi, Shangar Ibrahimi, Farhad Mirzaie, Kawan Omar Ahmed, Saman Mohammed, Jasim Sammad Mohammed and Nzar Anwar.

9 January 2020: the trial begins of seven men charged with grooming, sexually abusing and raping two girls (aged around 14) in the Huddersfield area from 1995 to 2007. The publicly named accused include Usman Ali, Banaras Hussain, Abdul Majid, Gul Riaz and three other men who cannot be named for legal reasons.

18 December 2019: three men convicted of indecently assaulting or raping a young girl in the Telford area. Their names: Mohammed Ali Hussain, Amjad Hussain and Mohammad Rizwan. Deliberations are continuing in the cases of two additional defendants, Shafiq Younas and Nazam Akhtar.

Unless I missed something, none of these cases made any of the major television news channels: I had to root out the information on Google. Each of the cases is deeply disturbing. Taken together – and linked to the South Manchester episode – they point to what can only be a deliberate attempt to hide the truth of the extent of Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.

Put it this way: if the 25 men above were white, and their victims had been Asian, there would have been wall-to-wall media coverage (quite rightly) and calls for a full investigation into what was driving such racially and physically abusive criminal behaviour.

That no such coverage and no such calls are being made in the wake of the Manchester calls and the very recent spate of Muslim grooming crimes (let alone the longer history of such crimes in Rotherham, Rochdale, Derby, Huddersfield, Bury, Newcastle and Bradford) is a national disgrace and an indelible stain on the media and the liberal elite.

Nev Palmer

16th January 2020 at 6:56 pm

Disagree we should be talking about why not a single one of the police social workers, cps council and so on has been sanctioned or suffered any serious consequences for their failings in these cases. Just the poor woman who blew the whistle originally.

Nick McG

16th January 2020 at 4:56 pm

If we live in an age where we can’t even say it’s not possible to change your sex, what hope do we have with something like this?

Lilian Adusu

16th January 2020 at 3:54 pm

WRONG IS WRONG AND RIGHT IS RIGHT – I personally believe, that until racism is properly dealt with and the British public or the so-called white people are educated to understand that all human beings are equal, these sort of matters would always way weigh on the consciences of those who think themselves better than others.

First of all, people must look at themselves and check if they have two heads, four hands or more of any other human organ than the one they are looking down on. There are privileges, yes, but that does not make one human being superior to the other.

If a white, brown or yellow child is given the same privileges as another child; right from childhood to adulthood, the chances are, that they would all come up the same way; in spite of their colour and race.

Once this is understood by all, it would be hard for anyone to feel guilty about commenting on the wrongdoings of anybody of any race.

People are made to think that because they are superior/inferior to others, it would be wrong to point out at their wrongdoings; in order not to be called racists. However, if everybody knows they are one and the same as the other, the yardstick in measuring people’s attitudes would be one and the same, so who would have the right to complain about being corrected because of their race?

The nation must purge itself and every individual ask him/herself what makes him/her think he/she is superior to the other person. has she/she got two heads? If he/she is white, the other person is browner or blacker than him/her etc.

Nobody is wiser than God who created the diverse races into the world, so how dear anybody think that one race is better than the other.

Can anybody imagine how boring the world would look and feel if everybody was the same? Like children, others are able to cheat their peers out of their possessions but it is seen as them not knowing better. So if the British ancestors cheated the others in the past, it should not become the guilt of their children forever. Let them deal with it and get on with life. Unless they want to say, that they would do the same again if given the chance; otherwise why not call a spade a spade. There are some brown and black people who can not stand the pale colour of the white people so must they spit at them. No way. The world is civilized now so let’s open our eyes.

It’s only an animal who would hurt a young girl in that way, groom a child for sex? Even dogs do discriminate on who they mate with. Thank you.

Jerry Owen

16th January 2020 at 5:36 pm

WTF has your post got to do with predominantly Pakistani grooming gangs ?
Do you think rape is okay ?
What year student are you ?

Neil McRobert

17th January 2020 at 5:33 pm

I’d hazard a guess that he’s maybe a Rasta far I…..

Neil McCaughan

18th January 2020 at 5:00 pm

What racism?
The only racism on show is the virulent contempt displayed by Pakistanis toward English people.

Jerry Owen

16th January 2020 at 3:04 pm

Brendan like other Spiked writers talks about the ‘far right’ making political capital out of this.
It was the ‘far right’ in the form of the BNP and Griffin in particular that first exposed this some twenty years ago, he and the BNP were pilloried by the media, called liars etc, the ‘impartial’ BBC even went as far as to try and set him to get him for racial hatred.
Perhaps Brendan thinks the BNP should have kept quiet.. maybe Brendan could expand on his view a bit more on the ‘far right’.
All political parties make political capital out of whatever they can it is the nature of the beast.
The ‘far right’ is virtually non existent in this country so I would suggest the ‘far right’ don’t choose good campaigning issues such are their poor polling results.
I would hazard an alternative view of the ‘far right’ in that just maybe they actually care about the grooming of young white girls .. and oh non white girls of other faiths also.
Thank god the ‘far right’ have the courage to shout loud and long about it.

Jerry Owen

16th January 2020 at 3:23 pm

Another post under mod, it’s getting quite bad now.

Finbarr Bruggy

16th January 2020 at 2:34 pm

Two things to bear in mind: 1) the vast majority of Muslims will be horrified by these scandals and the cover-ups, and 2) there might be a few idiots out there trying to exact revenge. However, the reluctance to deal with this problem for fear of being accused of racism and Islamophobia is utter cowardice. One thing that strikes me whenever I meet people from the subcontinent is how many of them are not native speakers of English i.e. they are recent immigrants. How did they get in? The answer is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/115898/occ96.pdf
We allow Indians and Pakistanis to bring spouses back to the UK from India and Pakistan. Aren’t there enough eligible UK-born sons and daughters of immigrants available for marriage in the UK? This situation has several undesirable results. First it perpetuates arranged (the norm) marriage and forced marriage; second, it perpetuates first-cousin marriage; third it increases immigration; fourth, it slows down the pace of assimilation; and, finally, it can result in unhappiness. Put yourselves in the position of a young 18-year-old, educated British-Pakistani girl pressured into marrying an uneducated villager back in the home country. Marriage is hard enough without a mismatch like that. As for British-Pakistani men obliged to marry a village girl, it cannot be easy to be trapped in a marriage not of your choosing. Not that this justifies any of the abuse meted out to vulnerable white girls. Nevertheless, the private home lives of these men must be a factor. And we have to address the religious element that, undoubtedly, underpins this behaviour. There is also enough evidence now that Muslim-faith schools are a disaster and designed to eliminate any possibility of integration. It is ironic that the Saudis, after sowing Wahabism all over the world, are slowly trying to ditch it, while we in the west allow it to grow unhindered.

Melissa Jackson

16th January 2020 at 3:27 pm

It’s worth noting that regardless of the issue; people don’t seek revenge for wrongs unless the justice system fails them.

The best move both to prevent the right making hey and to help community integration was for the authorities to come down forcefully on all abusers, and to push for maximum sentencing with no plea bargains. Rapists can get life, remember, especially those who prey on children.

This would have shown everyone that no-one is above the law, and in treating minority communities like native Britains, they would have felt more like members of our society. Yes, it’s terrible to have someone you know dragged off to prison, but it’s quite a bit more terrible to see someone you know be raped and driven to suicide. The point is that we’d all be in it together.

Cody Bailey

16th January 2020 at 3:49 pm

The justice system does not exist to protect you. The police are not there to protect you. They exist to protect the state.

William Brown

16th January 2020 at 1:43 pm

I fear that it will never happen Brendan. Already the denials and refusal to accept responsibility are writ large. All of the 43 Police divisions were complicit, to a greater or lesser extent, in encouraging paedophilia, procurement of children for prostitution sexual violence.

The Labour party is already pandering to the Muslim Council of Great Britain’s hastily put together ’10 point plan against Islamophobia’ which, as a retort to any completely justifiable reaction to the burgeoning ideology of Common Purpose and ‘wokeness’, will no doubt end in yet more ‘hate speech’ laws.

I seriously doubt too that Johnson/Cummings/Patel have either the will, or the skills required to do any more than to kick the issue into the long grass and eventually stick their respective heads in the sand. There will possibly be a few scantily reported arrests and convictions over the next few weeks and months, but after those, our politicians know too well that the mainstream press will be on to something else. Meantime, the cultural Jihad will continue unabated.

Bella Donna

16th January 2020 at 1:00 pm

Our justice system, government and MSM should hang their heads in shame that they allowed this to go unpunished for decades whilst busily persecuting those who tried to highlight it and enforcing their silence on pain of being a racist xenophobic bigot! Tommy Robinson is one such person. What has also come to light is the disgusting role the police took in actually participating in these rapes themselves! When are we going to have a Justice system worthy of the name?

harry briggs

16th January 2020 at 12:47 pm

So we can hopefully expect convictions from these gangs in Manchester in the near future, adding to those from the following towns and cities, Newcastle, Keighley,Rotheram,Rochdale,Peterborough,Aylesbury,Oxford,Bristol, Huddersfield and no doubt many more in the future, it’s also a crime that those responsible for allowing this to happen and doing nothing and who are equally responsible are not in the courts also, I read that the minutes of the meetings where Manchester police and the Council decided to drop the original enquiry had mysteriously disappeared, I am sure they would have made interesting reading, It seems that those who we rely on to protect us, Police, Councils and Social services are beyond being held to account for anything.

Dave N

16th January 2020 at 12:20 pm

In October 2018 the former Chief prosecutor for the North West (Nazir Afzal) claimed on BBC Radio 4 that in 2008 the then Labour Home Secretary Jacqui Smith actually ordered the police to ignore the activities of the Muslim “grooming gangs.” This allegation has been totally ignored by the political establishment and by the media. How can this be? A “feminist” Home Secretary is accused of perverting the course of justice and sanctioning the rape of thousands of girls and nobody seems to care. This should be headlines. Have we no real journalists these days?

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 9:01 am

It’s important to remember that the police are organs/tools (and I don’t mean those words in a derogatory way) of the state. If they appear to us, ordinary citizens, to be wasting their time on hate crimes which are’nt crimes or failing to prosecute child sex ual abuse then it’s because that is what the state wants them to do. The only people to blame, apart from the perpetrators of course, are the politicians and the legislation they have created.

Chester Minnit

16th January 2020 at 9:40 am

With the greatest respect I think this is the press’s fault. The have spent years promoting PC so they can persecute anyone who dares cross the line to grab easy headlines. Not only is It cheap, lazy journalism it has the advantage of controlling the politicians who daren’t cross their lines. The fallout is appalling, as we can see from this story, but the bottom line is that the Press runs this country not the MPs and they are lazy.

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 10:46 am

That’s a good point Chester. The trouble is our politicians and press are there ostensibly at our behest, but we are a democracy and therefore there is always a tendency for some majoritarian tyranny to arise. I think in the last two decades, Left/Liberal political correctness has definitely taken hold, but ultimately it is the politicians who make the decisions and make the laws.

Paul Weston

16th January 2020 at 8:43 am

“We have to speak about these Pakistani Gangs” is both the title of this article and self-defeating cowardly nonsense.

We need to talk about two precise issues in actual fact: 1) What is the connection between Islam and the rape of non-Muslim women, girls and underage girls. 2) Why is the entire Western establishment (and Brendan O’Neill) so pathologically committed to NOT talking about it?

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:44 pm

Yes, it is funny that when people say “We need to talk”, they are often anxious to set limits to the discussion.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 11:42 pm

A bit like climate change… The science is settled, so we actually don’t need to talk about … We’ve decided that for you!

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 11:47 pm

What Brendan is saying is that lets talk about it … Unless you are ‘far right’ .. and I still maintain that it was the BNP that first raised the issue.

brent mckeon

16th January 2020 at 6:19 am

Talking is over, bring to justice those who willingly turned a blind eye to the abuse. A few high placed Toffs/social workers and police in jail would send the correct message loud and clear.

Dave N

16th January 2020 at 12:38 pm

Jacqui Smith?

In2 Minds

15th January 2020 at 10:30 pm

How strange we do not listen to the grooming gang girls but hang on to each and every word said by Greta Thunberg !

a watson

15th January 2020 at 10:09 pm

This is an illustration of how the Labour Party considers the Christian working class – muslim immigrants have to be considered first. I no longer trust them at all. Similarly the behaviour of the police is and was outrageous – as a white working class Londoner I know that the prejudice of the chattering classes is permeating once greatly trusted and valued professions in Britain. What can we do?


15th January 2020 at 11:40 pm

How are the working classes in this country ‘Christian’? There are very few genuine Christians (i.e. believing churchgoers) left in the UK.

Jerry Owen

16th January 2020 at 7:57 am

Do you agree with Brendan’s article ?

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 8:27 am


I think it is fair to call British natives Christian to some extent, even if they do not go to church, even if they rejected the descriptor. Generally speaking Christian principles of love, neighbourliness and charity are widespread in this country as a result of fifteen hundred years of Christian teaching. The Church itself may be out of favour but on the whole the principles continue, for how long though without reinforcement I don’t know.

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 8:42 am

The word ” love ” crept in there, excuse it.

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 8:45 am

Or maybe not.

a watson

16th January 2020 at 10:51 am

ZP please consider Claire D’s reply.

Dominic Straiton

17th January 2020 at 5:18 pm

Well they have never been that christian as all the money spent on churches in the East end of London show. They have always been small c christian small c conservatives. This was always known by every Labour politician until 2016

K Tojo

15th January 2020 at 9:10 pm

“We need to talk about this” says O’Neill.

“We” the chattering classes do talk about this. After all, TV news and current affairs are dominated by those self-same chattering classes. They are always keen to show the world how concerned they are that the right thing should be done “to protect the vulnerable”. Once they have paraded their concerned feelings before the public their job is done. Now everyone has been made aware that there is no room for complacency – that lessons must be learnt. Someone, somewhere must do something!

Actually doing something to fight dangerous criminals is much too difficult for our perennially squeamish chattering classes. “We mustn’t be too hard on them. They’re disadvantaged. Anyway, we’ll just make them worse” is the criminal-friendly mantra.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:36 pm

Absolutely true. And, remember, conservative governments have presided over this appalling situation and done nothing either. It all smacks of a political conspiracy to make the people feel safe and keep playing the progressive ‘tolerance’ game. The Left, of course, will always project its failures onto the Right – as long as they’re allowed to get away with it.

William Brown

16th January 2020 at 1:49 pm

Spot on.

Tinfoil Hat

15th January 2020 at 8:53 pm

Protection of children should trump everything. No excuses for such bad policing can be tolerated. How can anybody possibly get to such seniority without demonstrating simple moral prioritisation?

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:31 pm

I don’t think policing is to blame; it’s the court system and the Left wing bias in that institution which frames criminals as victims themselves.

We watch “24 Hours in Custody”, a reality TV series from the UK. In that program we see hard-working police frustrated endlessly by criminals who play the system (“no comment”) and courts which are lenient, negating much of the work the police do. Each week we hear detectives (often female) talk about criminals and the consequences they can expect from their crimes. I always smirk at my spouse and say, “this cop is deluding him/herself; it makes you wonder why they continue to say this”. Sure enough, even in cases of very very serious rape and assault, at the end of the program we find minimal sentences, no charges being laid or other mitigating actions because some criminal has struck a bargain – but, above all, they have manipulated a system which is there expressly for that purpose and little else.

It’s a shocking system and I wonder why we all don’t make more noise about this in our respective countries. The Left has such a stranglehold over the institutions it’s impossible to do anything about it; that, and the lack of accountability from the court system, makes a laughing stock of community safety.

In short, I’m not in the least surprised to read articles like this one.

Tinfoil Hat

16th January 2020 at 7:04 pm

As I understand it the senior police involved blamed funding shortage. Unacceptable prioritisation.

Geoff W

15th January 2020 at 8:46 pm

It is well past time that we held a full and open debate about Islam as a whole, not just the grooming gangs aspect. From koranic verse 33:59

“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.”

which implicitly says that those women that aren’t Muslim and dressed in an Islamic manner are open to abuse.

There are many, many more examples of texts that need discussion. Sure, not all Muslims will interpret them in that manner but that is a valid interpretation.

Dave N

16th January 2020 at 12:34 pm

Then there’s the fact that Islam’s “Perfect Man” role model himself raped captured girls and kept sex-slaves.

Michael M

15th January 2020 at 8:29 pm

No-one should be above the law. Samuel Clements said “the law is an ass”. He was talking about statutes, but it applies to the enforcers here.

H McLean

15th January 2020 at 8:02 pm

Stop calling them Asian men. Doing so validates the PC notion of avoiding the awful truth for fear of causing offence. In cultural and religious terms they’re Pakistani Muslims.

Finbarr Bruggy

15th January 2020 at 9:21 pm

Correct. No Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese or Korean involvement.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:37 pm

Most of those a hardworking, good and decent people with family values!! How dare they traduce all “Asians”. That’s racism at its worst.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:48 pm

And not necessarily Pakistani. In other countries these outrages are committed by people from other countries. The common factor is islam.

Michael Green

15th January 2020 at 7:41 pm

Sacrificing individuals to protect the ideology is a defining quality of an ideological regime.

Adamsson 66

15th January 2020 at 7:40 pm

But that would be racist

John Little

15th January 2020 at 7:02 pm

This issue fills one with an incandescent rage and disgust that is impossible to express in words. Rage, disgust and the desire for revenge on the vile creatures who carry out these crimes. Rage and disgust at everyone, and every group and organization that has either covered up for them, or looked the other way through sheer cowardice. Also shame. Shame that British people are allowing this to happen. Are not prepared to enforce the law and carry out their duty to protect the most vulnerable in our communities. The must be harsh consequences and a harsh reckoning. Unless this issue is addressed and the guilty are bought to justice, this country is to be regarded as hopelessly corrupt and uncivilised.

Mike Garland

15th January 2020 at 8:21 pm

Agree 100% John
It seems that Tommy Robinson was right he has been saying this for at least 10 years and even went to Jail because he tried to raise this whole subject

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:40 pm

You might as well be living in the USSR; at least everybody would have a job. Yes, I know, nobody would actually be doing anything. But the ideology is the same; propaganda, protection rackets for criminals, encouraging people to betray each other, agitprop. The whole catastrophy, which the Left has given to democratic countries as the ‘spoils’ of defeated communism.

Vanessa Hudson

17th January 2020 at 8:05 pm

Tomorrow, 18th January ‘Tommy’ will be in Denmark to be awarded the prestigious ‘Free Press Society’s 2019 award’ for the world’s most important defender of free speech. Great recognition for a guy who’s been incarcerated numerous times on trumped up charges for revealing and highlighting the uncomfortable truths.

Simon Gardner

15th January 2020 at 6:40 pm

And on top of everything else a faux duchess!

Keith Lloyd

15th January 2020 at 5:49 pm

I strongly believe that there is an anti-English racism that is endemic in our society from top to bottom. It is perpetrated by the state, the mainstream media and by the capitalist ruling class. The time for English people of decency to wake up and challenge this is well overdue.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:42 pm

But you are being distracted by Brexit and the climate red herring. What a perfect time for the court system and politics to be operating as a kind of protectionist underground; no accountability when the people are looking the other way.

a watson

15th January 2020 at 10:19 pm

London politics is full of it. It is palpable. I suspect that it’s rife in the area’s educational establishments also.

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 5:22 pm

Brendan is again bravely highlighting two great evils afflicting us today: the racist grooming gangs now active in most larger UK towns and cities, and the establishment failure to face or even discuss their awful crimes, which involve hundreds of thousands of victims and go back 40 years or more. To better grasp this second issue, recall the energy and effort mustered by the authorities to pursue and prosecute veteran soldiers for ‘war crimes’ now decades old. Then compare this with establishment and media efforts to pursue and tackle the grooming gangs. Hopefully, even the most zealous of brainwashed leftists will note the glaring difference. But will our brave SJWs ever face or even accept this horrific truth? Sadly, I think they’ll defend their leftist faith first.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:44 pm

Bravo. Couldn’t agree more.

Miles Plastic

15th January 2020 at 5:18 pm

It started with the McPherson report into Stephen Lawrence murder, with accusations of institutional racism in the police. Ever since the police have been crapping themselves at even a suggestion of racism. Political correctness has just upped the ante.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:16 pm

The MacPherson report exposed the police’s racist handling of the investigation into the murder of a black teenager.

It also exposed the over use of stop and search against black young men in London.

If the police took the report as instruction to not arrest criminal suspects who happen to be non white that is their failing.

brent mckeon

16th January 2020 at 6:27 am

I have family/friends in the UK and three have been stopped and searched. None liked it but being ‘white’ they accepted and shut up. All law abiding people should accept the laws but because one section shouts the loudest (amplified by the MSM) it is automatic that they are right and abused, maybe not.

Ed Turnbull

16th January 2020 at 12:27 pm

Danny, is the use of stop & search (both pre- and post-Macpherson) on young black men disproportionately high compared to the proportion of crimes committed by members of that group, as evidenced by the crime stats? If not, then in what sense can stop & search be deemed ‘racist’? Surely it’s just prudent policing. But silly me – I forget we now live a in world where facts and objective reality are ‘racist’ (or islamophobic, or transphobic ad nauseum).

Skeptik Eye

17th January 2020 at 12:25 pm

How would you rate the police investigation and subsequent reporting of the murder of 15 year old Kris Donald. Who was abducted by a gang of Pakistani men who tortured, stabbed and set him on fire whilst still alive? Note: His mother did not become a Baroness.

Neil McCaughan

17th January 2020 at 6:59 pm

The idiot McPherson Didn’t expose anything. It parroted a few idiot mantras the liberal establishment wanted to hear.

Steve Roberts

15th January 2020 at 5:01 pm

And here we go again, yet another revelation, one of many already, which leaves the questions that seriously needs answering, how many more are to come, how many more are underway, how many more are already concluded but also been hushed up for fear that if the entire bombshell was dropped at once there could be serious social conflict , and rightly so.
It is entirely feasible and non conspiratory to expect that there is a very large – even larger than we are aware of now – cover up going on at state and local levels. Champion was extremely late in poking here head above water in Rotherham, Burnham the same in Manchester, these are all part of the elites who are managers of the status quo and they appear to be slow release managing these catastrophies too.
If the conclusions continue to be drawn that we have in this nation a particular section of the community, whatever their cultures or social backgrounds, that are operating criminally and regularly against children with little fear of relevant legal recourse then we have a major social crisis on our hands, one that in any other circumstances would be tolerated. Effectively there seems to be parts of the nation that are beyond the law that the rest of us have to accept and consent to.
This is completely unacceptable and extremely dangerous for any sort of civic life for all communities.
And here is the problem, where will the political leadership come from to instigate serious change, to open debate to all citizens without fear of prosecution for speaking out, to create a public space where the entire political class are brought before us.
The answer is clear , there is to be no leadership, no shaking of the status quo because the entire established order are all, from all parties ,from state to local level and all the multicultural industry responsible for this situation and have been for decades.
From many comments here there is frankly disgust and rightly so, but also cheap political points scoring, this is not just about the “left” hate them as i do, this is the entire establishment .
This is the first of many wake up calls post GE and the present Johnson love in, Brexit and democracy have not yet been achieved or defended, there has not been a change of politics for good, we are still left with a HOC stuffed with essentially remainers and the political class responsible for this and many other tragic situations in society.
The removal of this inept political class and their establishment lackeys remains the task in hand, or there is a lot more suffering to come.

Ven Oods

15th January 2020 at 4:24 pm

‘To serve and protect…’
Unless our Chief Constable decides it’d look better if we didn’t.
Some of these pathetic nonentities should be losing their fat pensions. They didn’t do their jobs.

Andy Bolstridge

15th January 2020 at 3:40 pm

I heard that Ch4 news said that there were grooming cases in 43 police forces.

the thing is, there are only 45 police forces in the entire UK. One of them is the City of London police. I assume the last one is not yet ready to admit they have a problem too, PSNI?

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:57 pm

The police are the scapegoats for systemic political and judicial failures.

Claire D

16th January 2020 at 8:48 am

You are dead right there Brandy.

Ecgbert King

15th January 2020 at 3:39 pm

Police, social services, and local authority councillors were all fully aware of what was happening. It’s time that those people across the country were held to account – in courts of law.

It’s appalling also that people knew that their local representatives were aware of this – even complicit in some areas – but then continued to vote for them. It seems in many places people really care less about child-rape, child welfare and law-breaking than they do about getting Labour councillors.

J Chilton

15th January 2020 at 3:16 pm

We hardly need to talk about these “Pakistani gangs” anymore. We have already talked about them for years. We need to do something about them.

That’s the point where the problem gets dropped – until the next time we need to talk about it.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:52 pm

“We have already talked about them for years.” No we haven’t, and that is the point of this discussion. Even now there is scarcely a mention on the BBC or in the press, although the outrages are going on all the time.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 2:27 pm

Everyone was afraid to do anything for fear of being labelled as racist.

But by whom?

Muslims? I have not seen any Muslims say prosecuting these paedos is an act of racism. In fact one of the people who brought these scumbags to prosecution was a Muslim. If he thinks it to be racist then…well obviously he doesn’t.

The “left wing” media? Oh like The Guardian and The Indy. As far as I can tell in reporting these gangs and their trials and subsequent convictions none of these outlets have mentioned the word racism.

Oh there’s that Owen Jones who said “shut up for the sake of diversity”. Oh actually that was an idiotic parody account that tried to frame Owen as an apologist for rape gangs because he thinks far right types are bit thick.

The Left in general. Er I have not seen any leftists say that prosecuting these gangs is racist.

Who has said it’s racist?

Mike Oliver

15th January 2020 at 3:14 pm

It’s not that it’s been reported as racist, it’s that it hasn’t been reported (becasue they wouldn’t want to be labelled racist)
This went on for years and no one wanted to open the can of worms, because of the lack of diversity of the perpetrators. If this was a society problem, or even an asian problem it would have been reported. But there were no Brits in these gangs, just Asians. And of these Asians there were no Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Indians, Sri Lankans, Thai etc. There were also no Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Christians, Buddhists, Toaists, Confucianists, Shintoists etc.
This lack of diversity would mean that if you reported it you would have to point the fingure at a particular culture/community.
At least that was the fear. Now that these cases are finally coming to the courts, the media mostly try to dissipate the blame with “Asian grooming gangs” and not specifying the common faith.
Of course the public now all know who and what these people are, but we aren’t having the conversation about the root causes, because that would be racist.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:01 pm

The root causes being the race and culture of the paedos?

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 3:24 pm

Imagine the massive outrage and street protests had gangs of gammons spent the last 40 years systematically targeting, grooming and repeatedly raping hundreds of thousands of underage working class Muslim girls across UK cities, with the authorities accused of ignoring or even hiding their involvement in the most massive and shockingly racist child abuse scandal in UK history. The country would be permanently shamed globally and we’d never hear the end of it. But back to reality and our ‘Asian’ ‘grooming’ gangs. The only Labour MP who spoke up for the victims (Sarah Campion of Rotherham) got crucified and then demoted by her tolerant colleagues. And we all know how much worse happened to dumb working class gammon and white supremacist Tommu Robinson. What’s obvious to sane Brits is that leftists in the street and in the establishment fear those who expose the gangs much more than they fear the gangs themselves. I say the left have failed us all as a nation and also betrayed the universal fight against racism and oppression, If you aren’t part of that betrayal, please link us to where you support the fight against the racist Pakistani rape gangs of the UK.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:00 pm

I support prosecuting, trying and jailing paedos of all races.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 9:59 pm

All animals are equal; some animals are more equal than others.

Andy Bolstridge

15th January 2020 at 3:41 pm

The “Those Rotherham girls need to shut up for the sake of diversity” was a retweet by Naz Shah MP.

i think it was originally a parody tweeter but it still shows what Naz thinks of the subject.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:09 pm

I don’t know what she thinks about the subject.

eli Bastenbury

15th January 2020 at 4:29 pm

You really are a PC cretin.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 7:58 pm

You have no argument other than “PC cretin”

Jerry Owen

16th January 2020 at 8:04 am

Danny Rees
Isn’t being a PC cretin enough then ?

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:56 pm

“I don’t know what she thinks about the subject.” But you do. She thinks the girls should have kept quiet for the sake of diversity. She’s a real charmer.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 8:58 pm

“I don’t know what she thinks about the subject.” Yes you do. She thinks the girls should keep quiet for the sake of diversity. She’s a real charmer.

Steve Roberts

15th January 2020 at 5:10 pm

Danny Rees, you have posted to Spiked for many years, i have confronted you many times but for quite some time ignored your platitudes and contrariness, you clearly take time and pleasure in attacking Spiked, that’s your lifes ambition? So be it.
However todays post has spilled over into disgraceful immoralism in pursuance of your contrariness.
Many children are been abused in a wicked way, no doubt which you also abhor, but you have to snipe away , nit pick as if this is sixth form debating chamber over a point of order, just give it up, direct ALL your ire at these misanthropic gangs , regain some moral compass. I know i’ve done it again , just wasted my time. Despicable totally unnecessary post today ,no doubt you will continue.

Michael Lynch

15th January 2020 at 6:57 pm

Ignore him Steve. He’s no better than the rest of the Left who have aided and abetted these crimes against children.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:04 pm

You are doing nothing but to shut down my point and ignore my question over who has said that dealing with these gangs or even talking about them is racist.

You are not worth my time.

Joseph Brown

15th January 2020 at 8:56 pm

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or does it come naturally?

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:01 pm

Lefties HAVE to be obtuse because transparency is like Krytonite to Superman.

brent mckeon

16th January 2020 at 6:33 am

So why was it covered up then? Please advise why sane sensible people in control did nothing, on purpose, for many many years. You know so much and Brendan is wrong so tell us the real reason why it was hushed up.

John Lewis

16th January 2020 at 8:05 am

A large number of callers to the Nick Ferrari shoe on LBC yesterday morning.

They may or may not be reflective of the Muslim community but they’re very good at getting their message across. You need to figuratively “get out more”.

Terence Ballard

16th January 2020 at 1:13 pm

It was a parody account but Labour’s Naz Shah still “liked” that statement.

Neil McCaughan

17th January 2020 at 5:22 pm

Danny, always the rapist’s friend.

Ray Gunn

15th January 2020 at 1:43 pm

Senior police in various police services around England for many years turned a ‘blind eye’ to the serious and numerous offences against under-age white girls by mainly Pakistani origin rape gangs. The accepted explanation is ‘political correctness’, fear of being labelled racist and the concern that prosecutions might ‘incite racial hatred’ and harm multiculturism. A more likely scenario is that for years they and the Crown Prosecution Service were instructed by the Home Office not to proceed. The blame for this disastrous policy rests far higher up the food chain than senior police.

Tracy Cowburn

15th January 2020 at 2:34 pm

Do you have evidence of that? I would think individuals would speak out if they were pressured in this way?

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 3:32 pm

If your concern about the UK’s biggest ever sexual scandal and coverup is sincere, then you’ll want to read this amazingly-documented book by Peter McLoughlin (or just visit his site):
Easy Meat: Inside Britain’s Grooming Gang Scandal (March 2016 – first published March 2014). The book is available to buy from Amazon in the US, UK, Canada, India, etc. The site continues tpo follow and log all cases and statistics (the Uk government does not keep official figures)

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 3:35 pm

I forgot this link, where the difficulties of victims’ speaking up and being believed are described convincingly

Andy Bolstridge

15th January 2020 at 3:47 pm

IIRC Gordon Brown told the police forces to focus on other matters for community cohesion.

the former chief prosecutor for the NW, Nazir Afzal, told the BBC in a radio interview that the Home Office sent a circular email to all police forces saying ‘as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.’” – that was when Brown was PM with Jacqui Smith as Home Secretary.

Mark Lambert

15th January 2020 at 1:39 pm

With you all the way until the “far right” bit.
Who are they? Various people who speak up?
People certainly get called that purely for speaking up.
That is a trope which has to be dropped.

Dominic Straiton

15th January 2020 at 1:39 pm

There are actually things going on that makes this whole thing worse. Young (children) non muslim (plenty are Sikhs) are targeted and turned into wards of the state. They are told what to say to get themselves taken into the care of the state in state sponsored child brothels. This happened to me 20 years ago in Tower Hamlets. Never been a prosecution there as far as im aware.

Dominic Straiton

15th January 2020 at 1:49 pm

odd how one of the greatest stories of corruption in British history is ignored by the fourth estate. Its going to get more and more embarrassing.

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 3:42 pm

The die-hard leftists and trolls here today seem unable to realise how their sneering denial and defensiveness only ruins the progressive cause, not just for them, but for all of us. Ironically, the underage white girl victims of the racist gangs belong to precisely the demographic which founded and still funds Labour. That once great party has now abandoned not just them, but also national democracy. ‘Power to the politicans’ is their battle-cry now.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:05 pm

Where, oh where, is Dickens when he’s needed??? Now more than ever.

Ed Turnbull

15th January 2020 at 1:18 pm

Yes, there needs to be a conversation, and there will be. Of sorts. But I’m betting that conversation, at least in ‘polite’ circles, won’t get within a million miles of examining the cultural – not racial – factors that drove these atrocities.

There’ll be no scrutiny (except by a bunch of ‘racist gammons’, of course) of the belief system that divides the world into an in-group and an out-group, and gives sanction to the sexual abuse of members of the out-group. A belief system that, in effect, sacralises the sexual abuse of children, especially out-group children. A belief system whose founder and figurehead indulged in all manner of activity that our modern world would (or, at least, ought to) condemn as heinous criminality. Yet adherents of this belief system consider this individual’s actions to be normative, and worthy of emulation.

When will we be having *that* conversation? When will we acknowledge that the tenets of the belief system in question are utterly incompatible with western culture. We won’t, of course. The adherents of this belief tend to be, if not given a free pass, at least granted extraordinary leeway. And this seems to be awarded on the basis of the skin colour of the majority of its adherents. One again the woke mob judge people based on their skin colour, rather than the content of their character. MLK, wherever he is now, must be shaking his head, and wondering how, i the name of all that’s holy, judging people by the content of their character came to be considered ‘racist’.

Mike Oliver

15th January 2020 at 1:55 pm

“Yet adherents of this belief system consider this individual’s actions to be normative, and worthy of emulation.”
This is a major factor in this abuse. People who might otherwise be repulsed by their own impulses and resist the temptation to exploit the vulnerable think “if it was good enough for the prophet…”
If you started a modern cult with the same values, you’d be rightly criminalised in an instant.
There needs to be a proper public examination of the underlying values of this faith that drive this contempt for non-believers.
Also, if I were Chinese, Indian, Korean etc, I would resent the widely used “Asian grooming gangs” epithet. 99% of the perperators are Pakistani and Bangladeshi.

Dominic Straiton

15th January 2020 at 2:17 pm

When a nonce goes to prison he is just about the worst scum on earth. When a jihadi muslim rapist nonce goes to prison he is protected by the people who run the prison. Tommy Robinson was pointing this out years ago. Thats the problem. Its portrayed as a “far right” problem when in actual fact its a failure of left wing governance.

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 3:49 pm

Infantile leftist bigots must deny their hate and hide their shame and failures. The secular message and mission of the Prophet Karl demands it. The alternative of growing up and accepting the awful truth about leftism and themselves is so very painful and difficult. I say this as someone who finally escaped his mind-forged manacles after decades of confusion and alienation. Today, love and respect have replaced my old hate for nation and culture.

Fred West

15th January 2020 at 12:58 pm

Those that fight for inward migration should be forced to live in the middle of these areas.
Particularly white advocates.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 2:22 pm

Is there evidence that these men were immigrants? Most likely they were born here.

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 4:02 pm

I often wonder how mass immigration without cultural integration is different from such progressive favourites as ‘invasion’ and ‘colonisation’. Any views on this? I also see that people’s cultural and religious identity is often deep and longlasting, and often leads them to ignore very unpleasant truths. For example, Corbynistas still put their faith in socialist revolution despite the 100m killed by heroes such as Stalin, Mao or Che. Then they sneer at the inferior white working class who created them and deny or poo-poo the systematic and racist rape of their underage daughters. To say that leftists today care about real people is blind faith, surely.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:19 pm

Yes there should be immigration with integration but integration in the cases of these particular paedos is not the issue.

Child sexual abuse is a problem amongst humans regardless of race and country of origin.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:11 pm

They remain living in immigrant enclaves sans integration so, yes, they’re still ‘immigrants’. When they embrace the British project with both hands you can call them British.

Tucker Carlson writes of exactly the same problems in the USA in his excellent book, “Ship of Fools”. He calls out both political parties but especially the urban bien pensant and its contempt for the ‘deplorables’. You know; that same demographic who fought and died in two world wars. His books has two excellent chapters, “Shut up, they explained” and “The Diversity Diversion”. Worth reading and so very well written by an insider himself.

brent mckeon

16th January 2020 at 6:29 am

Why the nit picking, was it terrible abuse or not and how do YOU suggest stopping it??

Ed Turnbull

16th January 2020 at 12:39 pm

Danny, given that islam – and let’s be honest it *is* islam that sanctions such vile behaviour – is not native to these shores but an import, an immigrant idea if you will, I think it’s pertinent to discuss immigration. Many of these rapists may indeed have been born in the UK, but they are not culturally British – culturally they *are* immigrants, their beliefs and values alien to the majority of the population. They have not integrated, let alone assimilated.

The authorities, by their wilful inaction, have allowed public anger on this issue to grow and grow, and it’s getting near the point where a hempen rope will be the only solution that will assuage that anger.

Neil McCaughan

17th January 2020 at 5:20 pm

So what if they are born here? They’re not British, and have never attempted to become so.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 9:01 pm

“…regardless of race and country of origin.” Up to a point. Islam, however, is a special case.

Cedar Grove

18th January 2020 at 12:51 am

Yes, some of the accused are immigrants, but place of birth is irrelevant. What matters is the culture you witness all around you, & absorb.

If you believe that undovered women are like meat hung on a hook in the street, or unwrapped sweets, you will apparently regard yourself as a fly.

Cedar Grove

18th January 2020 at 12:51 am

Edit: uncovered

Anthony Holland

15th January 2020 at 12:41 pm

This is where we are as a society. The line in the sand should be ‘adult males having sex with under age girls is illegal’. But nowadays every interest group has an argument to cover their arse. Everything is ‘complex’ because it’s in no one’s interest, not even ‘Spiked’, to keep it simple. The heroine addict could have been raped by the whole estate and would not be able to identify who did it to the satisfaction of a court as she was probably unconscious. So you can see why the police are unwilling to prosecute. When you live on these estates, you know there is a culture of ‘drugs for sex’ prostitution where the lines of consent are blurred at best. This problem cannot be solved by prosecutions. The abusers will take the activity further underground. Like it or not, the only way is to remove the despair and lack of purpose in all the participants lives by creating a sense of responsibility and community.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:08 pm

That might have come right out of the Sir Roger Scruton playbook, god bless him.

Cedar Grove

18th January 2020 at 12:47 am

Perhaps you would favour us with your no doubt impeccably woke solution?

Michael Lynch

15th January 2020 at 12:41 pm

We need to know if the Police Officers involved will face criminal charges and if not, why not. We need to know if Crime and Police Commissioners were involved in decisions to break the law and if they will face criminal charges. We also need to know if the decision makers in Child Care organizations will face criminal charges. This is an ideal opportunity for the BBC to carry out a full and frank investigation on behalf of the people of the country. If they fail to do so it will only confirm that they are rotten to the core with diversity ideology and are no longer worth funding from the public purse. This issue will not go away and report after report will undoubtedly continue to expose the horrendous scale of this. It is time for our political masters and media to atone for the use of identity politics against the population over the last two decades.

Michael Petek

15th January 2020 at 1:39 pm

“And they failed to do their duty because they did not want to ruffle community feathers; because they believed, as so much of the establishment does, that ordinary Britons are a vile racist throng and if we hear about an Asian grooming gang we will go crazy.”

Correction. They failed to do their duty because they were quisling collaborators with what was effectively a branch of the Islamic State.

Jim Lawrie

15th January 2020 at 1:40 pm

Michael, like The Bloody Sunday Inquiry and the focus on the rank and file, calls for charging individual officers will assist those who want to ensure the inquiry does not go all the way up the chain of command. Sacrificing a few officers and social workers as misguided and cowardly will mean nothing to them. It is a sign of things to come when the media obligingly refer to as “whistleblowers” Police Officers who report crimes.
Labour needed the votes of these vermin..

Michael Lynch

15th January 2020 at 2:45 pm

I entirely agree about the Bloody Sunday charade, they may as well put the soldiers guns and bullets on trail. With no investigation of the senior commanders, or Government of the day, the victims will never get justice just lip service. However, with regard to going after Chief Constables and the Commissioners, they’ll sing like canaries trying to protect their reputations and perks if pressed. The only way is up to the top from them. All of us know who is responsible for this, the likes of Blair and his cohorts, but there has to be direct evidence to link them and that can only come from the top of the Constabulary. I’ll bet they kept incriminating documentation for a rainy day. Surely they, as serving policemen who knew full well that they were actively breaking the law, always knew this day would come.

Jim Lawrie

15th January 2020 at 11:29 pm

We are in agreement Michael. Those threatened with loss of career, prospects and benefits would have been fools not to keep documents as insurance.
The political elite will have done everything to keep remote from themselves what they did for votes.

Anna Bolick

15th January 2020 at 12:27 pm

If only the stupid woke brigade actually directed their enormous energy and persistence at genuine issues like this…

nick hunt

15th January 2020 at 4:07 pm

yep; holding the moral high ground, teaching dumb gammons how to be as good as you, and fighting injustice all mean you have to walk your talk, not just talk down to evil non-leftists

Echo Romulus

15th January 2020 at 7:06 pm

It’s almost tiresome to point out these days.

The other day there was an African woman lecturing whites on so called “white privilege” on morning television. This is a term so ambiguous that a Wikipedia entry on the topic essentially describes it as anything and everything that whites do whether it be conscious or not, dating back to the 16th century all the way up to today. The cherry on the cake being that if you deny it then you have it.

This woman was bleating on about “systematic racism” and such but meanwhile, in the world outside of the delusional nonsense of white privilege and disembodied thetans, there was the story of a young girl who had died of a heroin overdose after already having gone to the police.

As we all now know, the Greater Manchester Police then dropped the investigation because of sensitive community issues. The police knew all about it and more cases as such and did nothing to protect the victims. This is the reality with 19,000 more cases like it. Now compare that to the delusions that get given a platform, despite being unproven, and pandered to.

We are expected to swallow these outright lies about us whilst simultaneously not get worked up about nationwide “asian” “grooming gangs” as if its Koreans are going around giving out bad pedicures. Those in government have all the power to do something about this but they won’t. They instead hide anything to do with mass rape because of the uncomfortable truths whilst celebrating multiculturalism and diversity and nod along to the feminist nonsense.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:13 pm

It’s all about votes!!!

Vanessa Hudson

17th January 2020 at 8:30 pm

That was likely Afua Hirsch who constantly bleats about white privilege yet had a privileged middle class upbringing. She’s the daughter of a white father and Ghanaian mother. She was privately educated, then later educated at Oxford. Much like Meghan M, she identifies as black yet is mixed race. That always befuddles me.

Echo Romulus

18th January 2020 at 12:02 pm

VANESSA HUDSON: “Afua Hirsch who constantly bleats about white privilege yet”…”she identifies as black yet is mixed race. That always befuddles me.”

The idea of white privilege, like most words concocted by marxists are tools to twist and extract utility for they are there to transmit meaning not only to deceive, to trick and to exploit. Take racism as an example. It is not a concept but a tool. If you claim like (Lawrence Fox recently found out on QT) a black person is being racist you would be laughed at. Yet black conservative, Candance Owens, is called a white supremacist because she holds the wrong political views, and why the smallest racist unit is the White Family (try Googling “white family” in Google images then try the same with Black Family or Asian Family.)

In short, if white privilege really did exist then she would identify as being white and not black.

The tools of liars are semantics and vocabulary.


15th January 2020 at 12:23 pm

Perhaps Sheffield University might develop a unit to do some research into the problem. It appears to have no shortage of funds to invest in ‘race’ issues.


15th January 2020 at 12:14 pm

I agree completely with this article.

Michael Lynch

15th January 2020 at 12:41 pm

Right on, Zen.

Ed Turnbull

15th January 2020 at 12:57 pm

Well that’s lovely to know ZP, though your support doesn’t really add anything to the conversation. Though I do wonder about the sincerity of your agreement. Is it no, perhaps, born out of the realisation that, if you indulged in your usual contrarian trolling on this particular issue, you’d be on the receiving end of a roasting that’d make the Dresden firestorm look like a low simmer? Just askin’.

Noggin The nog

15th January 2020 at 5:16 pm

Excellent comment Ed. Absolutely correct. ZENOBIA PALMYRA (aka Ameila Cantor) is an SJW Troll and should be ignored.
I note that last week in the BBC latest reporting of this wickness, first included the words ‘ Asia Men’ in their article, then a few hours later removed the same words. Great and honest reporting – I think not.

Andrew Mawdsley

15th January 2020 at 8:24 pm

Hi Noggin. Is ZP really Amelia Cantor in disguise? It would explain a lot. I always just assumed the were both bellends.


15th January 2020 at 8:34 pm

Not at all Ed. I’m a Christian and can therefore hardly be expected to agree with a major Islamic presence in this country, especially since we are seeing so many terrible consequences – rapes, terrorism, intimidation and subjugation of women, perversion of political processes (Tower Hamlets, bloc voting), etc. The rejection of historic Christianity in the UK has created a power vacuum that the Muslims are exploiting.


15th January 2020 at 8:36 pm

Andrew Maudsley — believe I am A Cantor if it makes you feel better.


15th January 2020 at 8:40 pm

I have never once engaged in ‘contrarian trolling’ on this issue but it is quite clear that the media is refusing to engage with Pakistani rape culture out of fear of Islam. I fail to see how that is trolling. I believe it, so I said it.

Jerry Owen

18th January 2020 at 11:44 pm

In all honesty nobody gives a monkey about you.

Jim Lawrie

15th January 2020 at 12:07 pm

“If we don’t talk about this, far-right elements will continue to make mileage from this issue, …” Shameful, petty point scoring – branding as far right those courageous enough to speak up from the start. What exactly does that mean “make mileage from this issue” – point out who is doing it and why they are being let off?

The lid is still being kept on it in Glasgow, along with significant sexual abuse of boys by another lot.

It is not abuse. It is SEXUAL abuse. The use of drugs, drink and threats to overcome their will and forcefully penetrate them in every orifice.

Geoff Cox

15th January 2020 at 1:03 pm

Well said Jim.

Spiked – stop putting in caveats about the “far right”. If you mean Tommy Robinson, then count me in as one of them. Yet I self identify as right of centre in some things and left of centre in others. What has really changed is that the views of ordinary people born in the 40s and 50s have now been rebranded as “far right” because the cultural marxists have done so to marginalise us and forbid our views from being heard.

steve moxon

15th January 2020 at 1:23 pm

Yes, Brendan put in this infantilism in an otherwise good piece.
In similar vein here on Spiked! anti-feminism ise deemed somehow ‘masculinism’.
The Left never can ditch its core fault of ‘projecting’ a mirror image of itself on to others.
What is not from the Left is automatically deemed as being from the Right, when actually it’s deserved criticism however you look at it, from those outside the infantile, out-dated Left bubble. It’s anti-ideology: realism. ‘Identity politics’ shows the rottenness of ideology, and if its not this it will be some other obscenity to which the Left will collapse, in the endless futile quest to try to square bankrupt ideology with social, inter-personal and economic reality.

Brandy Cluster

15th January 2020 at 10:15 pm

Bravo, Steve. I’m hoping Brendan comes to that sensible position himself one day. I remain very optimistic about this.

steve moxon

15th January 2020 at 1:27 pm

Yes, Brendan put in this falsity in an otherwise good piece.
In similar vein on this website, antifeminism is deemed somehow its opposite.
The Left never can ditch its core fault of ‘projecting’ a mirror image of itself on to others.
What is not from the Left is automatically deemed as being from the Right, when actually it’s deserved criticism however you look at it, from those outside the wrong-headed, out-dated Left bubble. It’s anti-ideology: realism. ‘Identity politics’ shows the rottenness of ideology, and if its not this it will be some other rot to which the Left will collapse, in the endless futile quest to try to square unworkable ideology with social, inter-personal and economic reality.

Jim Lawrie

15th January 2020 at 1:43 pm

It is a common feature on this publication. Using this as a platform from which to snipe tells us how much they actually care about these girls.

cliff resnick

15th January 2020 at 1:49 pm

The left wrote the script back in Stalin’s day and we’re still living it.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 2:23 pm

That is not what Brendan did at all.

He said if the problem of these gangs are not addressed and dealt with the far right will exploit it.

Nobody is calling everyone who speaks about this issue as “far right”

And of course the far right have sought to make capital out of it because they want to deport all non whites.

Echo Romulus

15th January 2020 at 7:17 pm

The “far right” see this for what it is. If you don’t want to face the reality of 19,000 reported rapes at the hands of these “Asian” “grooming gangs” just look at the story coming out of Brussels where yet again Vietnamese leg waxers have “bought” a 16-year-old French girl and forcing her into prostitution and have now been found to have more victims than originally thought.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:30 pm

This nitpicking about the far right is pointless and tiresome.

Nobody has actually said anyone who speaks about this issue is far right.

The far right do talk about this issue but pointing this out is not saying that anyone who talks about it is far right.

Sarah Champion spoke out about and she is not far right she is center left wing.

Suzy See

15th January 2020 at 10:53 pm

So Danny…. according to your definition, T Robinson is not “Far-Right” as he certainly does not want to deport all non-whites. Some of his best friends are ‘people of colour’. Let Brendan know.

Danny Rees

15th January 2020 at 8:36 pm

He did not brand those who talk about this subject as far right he said the far right elements will make mileage out of it.

If someone said far leftists will make mileage out of something does that mean they are saying anyone who talks about the subject is far left?


Echo Romulus

15th January 2020 at 9:40 pm

I don’t care that he wasn’t branding people “far right” for addressing the issue of Pakistani rape gangs. Nor do I care that the “far right” get political points off the back of it.

My point was the far right understand the situation for exactly what it is. They know it is a racial and religious issue. Giving someone a bit of paper that grants them citizenship isn’t going to magically turn them into a free thinking liberal progressives overnight. We are sacrificing British girls for the delusional idea of multiculturalism without understanding the cultures that we invite.

Cody Bailey

16th January 2020 at 4:00 pm

Echo: Not racial, it is cultural. That is a very important distinction and the reason there is so much confusion around the issue. A person of any race is perfectly capable of being a civilized person, but that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about people reared in a culture where rape, slavery and murder are considered completely acceptable behaviors. There have been plenty of such cultures in the past composed of every race.
To put it in a nutshell – import savages, you get savagery. It is no more complicated than that.

Echo Romulus

16th January 2020 at 5:29 pm

@CODY BAILEY: It is absolutely racial, Google consanguineous marriages in Pakistan. The reason they have a culture where rape, slavery and murder are considered completely acceptable behaviors is because the culture is downstream from the years of inbreeding that has taken place.

Little Black Sambo

17th January 2020 at 9:06 pm

In short, the “far right” (who ever they are) are an irrelevance to this subject. (a) they scarcely exist and (b) our troubles come from a quite different direction.

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