Five points about Trump’s racist tweets

Trump’s tweets and the furious reaction to them both spring from the new politics of intolerance.

Brendan O'Neill
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Donald Trump sent Washington into meltdown and caused waves around the world with the racist tweets he posted on Sunday. The tweets were a new low for a president who has already scraped right through the bottom of the barrel with his unpresidential antics on social media. He tweeted that certain Democratic congresswomen ‘originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe’ and said the women should ‘go back’ to those countries if they hate America so much. He didn’t name the women but everyone knows who he was talking about: the so-called Democratic ‘squad’ of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley, all of whom are non-white. Here are five points on Trump’s tweets.

1) They were racist

The right-wingers saying the tweets may have been offensive, dumb and even nativist but they were not racist are kidding themselves. Aside from Omar, these congresswomen are all American-born. On what possible basis could they be told to go home? They’re already at home. As is Omar, as it happens: she was born in Somalia but she has been an American citizen since 2000. Six years longer than the First Lady, as some reporters have pointed out. Telling people who were born or have been naturalised in a Western nation that they should ‘go back’ to where they came from is a racist trope, pure and simple. It is fuelled by a belief in the foreignness of these people, that they don’t really belong, that there is something about them that makes them lesser citizens. And we know what that is: the four women all have black or brown skin.

2) They were clever

As well as being prejudiced, Trump’s tweets were also clever. Trump may not be the best political strategist, or the best political anything, but his obsessive mockery of the squad is a smart move. As Freddy Gray at the Spectator says, it is ‘stupid smart’. Why? Because in constantly pushing the squad and their eccentric woke politics to the forefront of media and public consciousness, Trump is successfully associating the Democrats with this tiny handful of Democratic outliers. In recent months he has helped to make these four women, whose PC views run so counter to the moral outlook of the majority of Americans, into the face of the Dems, into household names, in the sense that many households will be thinking: ‘What the hell has happened to the Democratic Party?’ And he forces moderate Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, to defend the squad and talk about them constantly. As David Frum said this week, Trump’s tweets have ‘hit the Democratic Party at its point of vulnerability’, driving it towards ‘ever more radical outcomes’ that will grate with many traditional Democratic voters.

3) They were self-defeating

This is where the ‘stupid’ bit of Gray’s ‘stupid smart’ description of Trump’s tweets comes into play. To those who claim to be anti-PC, which includes Trump and his media supporters, the president’s racially charged output contains a massive amount of blowback. It provides the woke elites with a cause to rally round, proof of their harebrained claims that the United States is still riddled with white supremacy and stained with the original sin of racism. Often, these racism-obsessed observers have to invent cases of racism, seeing racial hatred in everything from an innocent conversational question (‘racial microaggression’) to anyone who strongly criticises Ilhan Omar and her undoubted anti-Semitism (‘Islamophobic’). In Trump’s ‘go back’ tweets they finally have proof of the prejudice that they believe is legion. Expect them to organise around this, to speak of it interminably, to cite it as Exhibit A in their claim that the US, and especially its redneck inhabitants, is a white-nationalist shitshow. Like babies to the Canaanite god of Moloch, these tweets will feed the woke elites.

4) They confirm the racialisation of everything

It is increasingly clear that Trump in his more prejudiced moments and the PC elites who make up the so-called Resistance to Trump share something very important in common: a hyper racial consciousness. The targets of their racialised ire may differ – Trump is down on gobby women of colour and Mexicans, while the woke brigade despises white men, white women and, in Omar’s case, Zionist types – but their driving force is often the same: an obsession with racialising every area of life. Indeed, this is the common cause of the alt-right (of which Trump is not a member) and the woke left – an intensely racial view of the world where individuals are increasingly judged according to their inherited characteristics. Non-white people in the West? You’re suspect, say alt-rightists. A white man, or, even worse, a white woman who voted for Trump? You’re a privileged beneficiary of slavery and colonialism who should be ashamed of yourself, say woke leftists. And you can only make up for your inherited wickedness through the permanent self-flagellation of checking your white privilege. It is good that people are criticising Trump’s tweets, but many of these people need to look in a mirror: if you are part of the new rehabilitation of racial thinking, you’re as problematic – to use PC parlance – as Trump.

5) They are par for the course

Here’s the thing about Trump and his supposed opponents in ‘the squad’ – these people are not that different from each other. Trump and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, for example, may be sworn enemies, but they behave in a comparable way. Both increasingly circumvent normal political processes in preference for the thrills provided by social media and its instantaneous validation. Both say outrageous things. Consider AOC’s use of the Holocaust phrase ‘Never Again’ to describe the migrant camps on America’s southern border – that’s as cranky and dumb as anything Trump has tweeted this year. And both feed off their enemies’ barbs and attacks. Trump needs the predictable outrage his tweets provoke in order to continue demonstrating to his supporters that he is speaking truth to the power of the old establishment. And AOC and others need their Twitter-haters and their imaginary white-supremacist America to show that they really are brave warriors against the evils of privilege.

That’s the great irony in all of this – Trump and the squad claim to hate each other, but in truth they need each other. This is the most symbiotic relationship in Western politics right now. The outrage over Trump’s tweets is part of the very same cultural, racialised politics that gave rise to the tweets in the first place.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show. Subscribe to the podcast here. And find Brendan on Instagram: @burntoakboy

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Comments

aidan maconachy

29th July 2019 at 12:00 am

Trump is constantly accused of being a racist but more often than not the alleged racism is inferred, extrapolated, made-up by people who see racists everywhere. Pelosi characterized Trump’s tweets about Baltimore as “racist.” One of the Dems no-hope candidates – Kirsten Gillibrand – says the first thing she will do if she makes it to the Oval Office is Clorox the place. This is what Dems have been reduced to… name calling, finger pointing, slandering… an insult machine on steroids.

Trump just stated the obvious. Elijah Cummings can indeed be boorishly overbearing… a scowling presence who gets off on hectoring and bullying people. Baltimore is another Democrat-run disaster area. Rat infestation is the least of it… the problems are legion. But in stating the obvious Trump gets smeared as a racist. It’s the shut-up tool of choice used by “progressives” to shame people who dare to address inconvenient truths.

Bikinis not Burkas

21st July 2019 at 12:25 am

What ‘race’ is Islam?
When a Muslim wakes up and leaves Islam what race do they become?

Crutch Bender

20th July 2019 at 10:54 pm

Just because you’re born in the USA doesn’t make you American. Florence Nightingale was born in Italy but she was still English. Rudyard Kipling was born in India but he too was English. Jesus was born in a stable but he wasn’t a horse.

Apart from that, many black Americans describe themselves as African Americans. They might have been born in America even so they are African? White Americans don’t describe themselves in the same way. I’ve hardly if ever heard the description European American used in the same way African American is constantly used.

Cody Bailey

3rd August 2019 at 1:02 pm

Most people cant tell the difference between race and culture. Both race and culture have a wide spectrum and no sharp dividing lines but there is little overlap between them.
That is a bit much for the average person to digest so they go for the simpleton’s approach: skin color.

Brien Doyle

20th July 2019 at 4:57 am

My complaints about these ‘four’ do Not need to be racist!

All four want ‘open borders’ for all asylum seekers – think Hijrah;

and two of them pledged to their koran – NOT to our Constitution
and their Sharia is the antithesis to our Constitution!!!!

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 10:24 am

It’s a pretty fair measure of how weird it is that this needs pointing out.

Ben Maughan

19th July 2019 at 9:05 pm

One point about your article Brendan. It’s nonsensical. You are as blinded by your dislike of Trump as are the liberal leftists who seek faux outrage in his every tweet. It is rare that I think you have an issue 100% wrong but this is one of those times. You cannot assume that his tweet was racist simply because the people it appears to be directed at are not white. This is the worst kind of gutter politics where people simply read what they want to read into somebody’s words and ignore any other possibility. You start with the premise that his tweet was racist and then spin a load of waffle to try to justify this irrational premise.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 6:06 pm

Gotta say l lolled about the one point.

E Mueller

19th July 2019 at 7:32 pm

I usually agree with your comments, Brendan, but today I think you’re just doing what you’re denouncing – racializing the remarks that Trump made. Trump obviously was NOT targeting four congresswomen because they are “brown and black” but because of their strident political stances, in particular on behalf of open borders. Categorizing Trump’s remarks as “racist” makes it “racism” every time someone calls out “brown and black” individuals for their activities. That is falling for the trick of diverting attention from the issue under discussion by playing the race card.

Hugh Oxford

19th July 2019 at 7:10 pm

Home is where the heart is.

Are these women’s hearts in America? The land of the free? The first and second amendments? A country built on Christian values, on hard work, on the individual? In Western civilisation, free markets?

Home can be thought in a strictly legalistic sense, or in a broader, metaphysical and emotional sense.

Clearly people can come to America and become great Americans. Look at the Trump family. But it is legitimate to question people’s loyalty and patriotism, especially when they seem to make an effort to set themselves apart.

William Brown

19th July 2019 at 11:28 am

It’s not often that I disagree with you Brendan, but on this occasion you’re just joining in with the pearl-clutching, faux outrage mob.

The ‘squad’ have chosen to single themselves out as anti-American – I don’t need to cite specific examples, as they are all easily found in the public domain, or even elsewhere in this thread.

The genuine racism lies with the four, not with Trump.

Andrew Clark

19th July 2019 at 1:27 pm

This is a perverse way of looking at the situation. It’s just a fact that Trump’s comments are racist, so denying Trump’s racism here is denying a fact. Additionally, applying the charge of racism to anybody, including anybody in the “squad”, does indeed require evidence – it does require you to “cite specific examples”, if you expect the charge of racism that you apply to them to be taken seriously.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 5:23 am

Fruitcake

Jerry Owen

20th July 2019 at 5:35 pm

As long as you know it’s a fact .. that’s cool !

Andrew Clark

22nd July 2019 at 4:54 pm

It’s simply a fact that it’s racist language, because telling people of colour to go back to where they came from is both anti-foreigner and anti-black language. Both of which are just a part of what constitutes the definition of racism (the latter especially if you’re not black yourself). I think the burden of proof here is with people who don’t think that it’s racist – what possible rational explanation is there that it isn’t racist?

Hana Jinks

22nd July 2019 at 7:43 pm

Aussies are still telling you whingeing, moronic, smelly pommies to go back to where you came from.

Virtue-signaller.

Andrew Clark

23rd July 2019 at 11:33 pm

Well if I was in Australia, and and Aussie said that to me, then they’d get nutted and they could have a fun trip to the hospital. If what Trump said is racist, then it’s not virtue-signalling to call it racist, it’s just a fact – and if it’s just a fact that it’s racist, then dismissing that fact as ‘virtue-signalling’ is just wilfully ignoring reality. I agree that ‘virtue-signalling’ is a problem with the exaggerated interpretations of reality given by today’s liberal-left. But that doesn’t change the fact that racism does exist, is an historical and political evil, and being complacent by ignoring it when it happens won’t do modern democratic societies any good.

Hana Jinks

25th July 2019 at 2:46 am

Are you a muslim?

Roger Clague

19th July 2019 at 8:41 am

Why not say Trumps general comments were sexist. ?
Anyway “racist” is a meaningless word now.

Thomas Smith

19th July 2019 at 2:41 am

Sorry to disappoint you, pal, but I still have BIG doubts about your Goebbels-like BIG LIE about how Ilhan Omar is “undoubtedly” an anti-Semite. That is pure garbage. You display here a remarkable talent for equivocating, which should serve you well in your new career as a former Marxist turned Centrist. Mazel tov. Maybe you can even get a job as a Trump, or better yet, Farage-advisor, someday.

Thomas Smith

19th July 2019 at 6:38 pm

And the idea that these gals are exaggerating when they call Trump a fascist, is belied by the fact that the wsws.org, A FAR BETTER JOURNAL THAN YOURS, which has called you “foul,” sometimes deservedly, has NO such illusions in Trump or in the present ruling class, which IS DEFINITELY reaching for the fascist option in so many places. I advise readers to check out the wsws and stop being lulled by Brendan and others into a false and very dangerous sense of security.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 1:33 pm

I don’t agree with you on this or hardly anything, and l don’t want to talk about it. But your support for JA and the other two has won you great favour.

Steve Gray

18th July 2019 at 4:07 pm

Donald Trump is a berk.

People should ignore him and concentrate on rebuilding democracy in America, so they can get proper politics and proper representatives.

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 8:46 pm

In what way does democracy need rebuilding in America ?

Steve Gray

18th July 2019 at 10:13 pm

Jerry,

Well, to begin with there’s a lot of people who basically have nobody ‘proper’ to vote for – at the last election, there was Hillary Clinton – with her hatred of ‘despicables’ and.. Donald Trump. Crap and crapper.

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 11:20 am

‘We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. we don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice’.
Ayanna Pressley ( D-MA

‘ Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content oh his character’
Martin Luther King

Trump never mentioned skin colour, but the content of their hearts.
Who are the real racists ?

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 2:56 pm

I gave him chance after chance Linda. You, Wattie, and everyone else has seen it.

You spurned every chance, Jerry Oven-Kraut.

William Brown

19th July 2019 at 11:33 am

What a world of difference between MLK and today’s entitled special needs and benefits club.
It won’t be long before someone will assert that MLK was a racist.
In all probability, some leftie twonk has already.

Neil McCaughan

18th July 2019 at 10:45 am

” It is fuelled by a belief in the foreignness of these people, that they don’t really belong”

Wrong. It is fuelled by their own choice to emphasise their foreignness, their un-Americanness, the fact that they choose not to belong.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 11:58 am

What’s going on? A step even further would be to say they want to destroy the country that welcomed them. You have such a good eye, and it’s horrifying that there are so few.

William Brown

19th July 2019 at 11:34 am

Spot on.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:13 am

Here’s the thing. Because you’re a humanist, you can’t see outside of youself or the world. Trump’s shown these wankers up for what they are, and you’re offended because you idolize the power and influence that these offices have. And anyway, you’re politics seem pretty weird. You guys wouldn’t ever get a look-in anywhere.

I don’t know much about pressley, but the other three are insane. Let’s imagine that l said that l respect Italians, new Zealanders, chinese, kenyans and cubans, but don’t trust pommies, egyptians, butanese and the french. Would that be raayyyccciissistt??

Do you guys actually think that if you criticize someone about something and they happen to be from a different race that that makes it automatically racist? .Because it sure seems so.

We used to tell minorities to go back to where they came from as kids in the schoool yard as a way to hurt them and to win the argument. Was that racist? Im mean, how much effect could it have had?

That lunatic omar promotes and praises al qaeda. Ars you aware that al qaeda is an islamist terror-group? She also hates America.

Its not racist to troll these people. Talib has said that she’d like to impeach the mothertrucker on numerous occasions. It seemed to me as if you were breaking thru the lies and nonsense, but this has shown just how mired in it you are.

He’s trolling them, and knows that they can’t go anywhere. The election isn’t that far off, and he’s well-entitled as the POTUS to be aiming a few early blows. Can you imagine what the people outsde of the surveys make of these fruitcakes? Is that fucking racist? Is it racist to refer to them as a load of fucking fruitcakes?

Did you know that O’Crazio-Cortex has just recently attempted to accuse Pelosi of being racist before backtracking? Duuude. What kind of game is this that you’re playing? It just doesn’t come off well unless it’s truth.

Trump is the Prez, and these women are gobby chancers..traitors, racists and undoubtedly insane. What kind of state must michigan and Minnesota be in to elect those two. New york is long gone, obviously.

Just where are you tho? I mean, you just tried to defend them. Where are you? They’re our enemies. They are diversity-communists. There’s nothing on the left now. Only horseshit. All of us alt-righters used to be centre-left until The Conditioned started voting for perverts.

Jerry Owen

17th July 2019 at 10:26 pm

They are four anti Americans in high positions of power attacking the USA and Trump.
BON however sees four people of colour .
Who’s playing Identity politics now ?

Christopher Hunt

17th July 2019 at 9:53 pm

Didn’t Piers Morgan — a person of impeccable whiteness — provoke exactly this reaction from Americans for his incessant lectures about gun control? It’s not Ilhan Omar’s lovely caramel color that set Trump off, it’s her endless stream of anti-American bile. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, another ex-Somali, is widely regarded as a hero for her courageous defense of Western liberalism. Trump won’t ask her to leave. He’ll probably give her a medal.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:24 am

Thanks so much for making that point.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:27 am

They still throw “raayyycciisssmmm” at us.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:33 pm

Hirsi-Ali deserves to be regarded as a hero.

Steve Roberts

17th July 2019 at 6:24 pm

Robert Weitzer, you admit your analysis and context could be incorrect, they are, just as much as Trump is not the arbiter of Americanism/ Patriotism, in fact beyond a few words in a tweet i doubt he could even begin to conceptualise what that means for ALL Americans. To suggest that Spiked represent in any shape or form “.. American left/Marxist ambivalence about identity politics..” just exposes what i wrote initially, your need to defend Trump is blinding you to the reality of the risk he deliberately took.
He probably doesn’t care about the reaction which was further explained in the article.
It seems a perennial problem affecting both Trump supporters and the liberal left, both sacralise the individuals and ideas in each camp, objectivity and logical rational thought are thrown out of the window, protagonists must be defended at all costs, quite ridiculous.They need each other to exist for themselves for each represent very little else.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:37 pm

You are so square and just so out of touch. You need to be de-programmed. Forget everything you know. It’s all utter horseshit now. It’s that irrelevant. Tune in to what the alt-right is saying. We’re actually liberals.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 2:01 pm

You’re actually the personification of “facile burblings”. Lol.

Wattie wasn’t serous about you hoping to get published was he?

But then again, why else would you be going on and on like this?

Peeved Gobbett’s. You are a loser.

Andy Bolstridge

19th July 2019 at 10:46 am

Seriously, you write “You spurned every chance, Jerry Oven-Kraut.” Take some time to reflect before deleting your account. Alt-right/woke-left, either way you’re toxic.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 5:27 am

I’d find out what the story is before running my mouth like that.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 12:57 pm

Jerry Oven-Kraut.

If people are gonna attack me for calling you Jerry Oven-Kraut, then I’m gonna have to continue to call you that…for the foreseeable future, at least.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 1:03 pm

Andy.

I’ve never heard of you before, but if l find out if that you are in fact Peeved Gobbett’s, Jerry Oven-Kraut, or in any way related to them, then l will expose this.

This applies to any relations of Sleeve Gay as well.

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 1:04 pm

No “if”

Hana Jinks

20th July 2019 at 1:17 pm

See how that works Thomas?

Jerry Owen

17th July 2019 at 5:19 pm

BON in his haste to publish this article of course failed to quote in full Trump’s tweets which actually do put a different slant on things ( not massively I agree but hey .. good journalism and all that ! ) and of course Trump didn’t name anyone, but BON has supernatural powers as do the BBC etc.
It took me a while to find the original tweets, but then I’m no journo, I rely on being told the full truth by professionals . This is exactly the same as the reporting of Trump’s ‘attacks’ and ‘rants’ at citizen Khan, you have to do research to actually find out what Trump is responding to. This is a bad situation for the POTUS to be in .. not a making of his own , it has been like this since his election.
The reality is that Trump has played a blinder for reasons well given above. Political machinations are brutal, politicians by and large are not ‘nice’ people. They are driven, by power money and fame, if you are nice or weak you will fail.
Pelosi is now a racist according to AOC ond others , how wonderful to see the Dems in such turmoil over a few tweets.. and of course the BBC and SKY who gave as little detail of the tweets as BON.
Trump is making his play for the next elections, every bit of bait he dangles out for the Dems they chomp at.. even the well seasoned Pelosi it seems has been well and truly played by Trump. Meanwhile keep your eye on the country and not the man .. America is doing better under Trump than Obama.
These women of colour for that is what they are , despise America and the American way of life, they deserve short shrift.. ‘ The Four Morons of the Apocalypse ‘ appears to be the tag they have been given, indeed it may have been Carlson Tucker who first used it.
Trump is a patriot I suspect he like many other Americans are sick and tired of the far left Dems calling ICE rapists child molesters, concentration camp holders and all the other vicious slurs that bile out on a daily basis for those merely doing not only their job to keep America safe , but to actually look after those that enter America illegally.
If the left want any respect they need to earn it now, that applies over here too.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:36 am

I hope we can be cool. I want to be able to praise you for this kind of post, and most especially for when you are the only one to see that the answer to equal pay is for the women to play without their tops.

Ive made my point. Troll the far-left by all means. I thought jon hen was retarded until l saw you asking him the same question about brexit over ten times.

That helped to me see that you are indeed the retarded one, and you even admitted to being some kind of commie before.

Even so, you are still a nazi. You must give account.

Jim Lawrie

17th July 2019 at 4:57 pm

“It is fuelled by a belief in the foreignness of these people,” – is where Mr O’Neill backs their duplicity because these individuals on the one hand hide from criticism behind race and gender and on the other employ the self same as their special and more authoritative basis for rejecting the USA.

The article rests on the assertion that born in a country entitles you to the rights and ownership of those who over many generations built that country.

Karl Marx rejected the idea of parvenus just showing up to stake a claim as equals. He knew the impossibility of building a society of equal opportunity based on such purity of politics. He emphasised the necessity of contribution to a social insurance fund and was guarded against those who would seek to treat it as an assurance policy.

William Brown

19th July 2019 at 11:45 am

Well said, Jim. This adherence to ‘they were born here’ as some sort of incontrovertable proof of ‘American-ness’ is simplistic, tiresome and ultimately dangerous.

Winston Stanley

17th July 2019 at 4:56 pm

USA is increasingly multi-racial. Whites made up 54% of 18-24 year olds in 2017 compared to 62% in 2000. They made up 51% of 5 to 17 year olds in 2017 compared to 60% in 2017. (Wiki)

If that tells us anything, it is that USA is going to have to find some way to cope with that reality. BON makes a fair point that the Dems have a highly racialised, and generally sectional, approach to politics. We saw that before the last presidential election with the appeal to the “black vote”, “Hispanic vote”, “women’s vote”, “gay vote” etc. It is sad if that is what “democracy” in the USA has turned into, attempts to divide and turn sections of society against each other and to try to monopolise the sectional vote to get a majority. It is cynical and one has to say that democracy that far has failed. Perhaps there is always an element of that in democracy but this is just openly feeding it on demographic lines.

It is possible to see the election of Trump as a backlash against that sectionalism with his emphasis on USA as a whole, “maga”. Trump may have avoided playing that game back then, but he has now allowed himself to dragged straight into vortex. He can say that he is still on about USA as a whole, and that it is not about race but USA, but “go back home” was exactly what he should have avoided saying if he did not want to feed the sectional game. At this point one has to say that both sides now look as bad as the other. It is bad enough living in UK with all of its untold nonsense, but all this makes one glad that at least one does not have to live in USA.

The women are correct that it is not about “going home”, it is about making one’s home as one wants it. Trump can say, “too bad, if you don’t like it, leave.” The women can say, “we fully intend to change it, if you don’t like it, too bad, leave.” But that sort of language is confrontational, it is not what one expects from politicians. Neither side is a majority dominant culture and Trump looks silly and anachronistic to use its tropes.

One can see how native British still tend to think of themselves as the dominant culture here and how that has a sell by date and looks increasingly tenuous, with about 40% of kids born in UK now of an immigrant background. The state likes to reinforce the dominant mentality in so sar as it can harness it for its own ends, and to break down the mentality where it does not suit its ends. The art is to harness the two horses. USA seems to be headed for full fragmentation. It was frustrating to see the sectionalism before the last presidential election, next time I will be prepared and I will take it as a LOL situation.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:52 am

So many fine and interesting points made, as usual. So glad you can’t delete anymore.

Americans are the only people in the west so attuned to anti-communism and anti-pc. And I’m sure that those playing the reverse-racism card can only do themselves a further disservice. People like biden and pelosi ars liberals, and are such whores to their position in society that they’ve let the whole party be dra

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 10:53 am

ged to the lunatic fringe.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 3:35 pm

Just let us live, mod-dudes.

Tinfoil Hat

17th July 2019 at 4:25 pm

After they’d gone back to fix their countries what did he then ask them to do, none other than to come back to the US and fix the US. “The tweet, the whole tweet and nothing but the tweet” is what needs to be criticised not a part of it out of context.

Winston Stanley

17th July 2019 at 5:16 pm

It does not really work like that does it? Anyone can stick a sentence on the end but it does change the tone of the body of the text.

It was a racialised tweet however it is constructed. It still would be if he had said, “We really like immigrants, we want them to help us build USA into a great land. But if they keep complaining about USA, maybe they should go home. Sort out your own countries first and then come back and tell us how to do it.”

It is unavoidably a racialised, immigrantised thesis however he might construct the tweet. One can only conclude that Trump deliberately racialised/ immigrantised the debate, and that he is now openly playing the same sectional game as the Dems. People can see Trump or Dems as the “good/ bad guys” but they are both playing the same sectionalised game.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:48 pm

Now this is a very interesting post.

I’d never want to speak for you on this kind of thing. And l get the impression that England is an especially shitty society. I don’t think he was being (especially) racist. I don’t wanna argue this kind of toss with you. I don’t know if I’m right, and l can only imagine,

Alex Ander

17th July 2019 at 3:51 pm

No, the tweet(s) weren’t racist. Obviously. I mean – you can make them racists if you like, but it’s not really a logical conclusion. You only arrive at a racist intent because the four congress women were coloured. If they were 4 women from Nordic countries originally would they still be considered racist? Arguably no.
But if the message is the same – namely, if you constantly moan and complain about America, then feel free to leave and go live elsewhere – then it’s a universally consistent message aligned with the “make America great again” slogan.
Yes, the recipients were female and coloured – yet on this occasion the intersectionality outrage algorithm has chosen “racist” rather than “misogynist”. So presumably if they’d been white and female instead, the intersectionality outrage algorithm would deemed the tweet misogynistic instead?
I don’t think his tweet was racist at all – racism was an after-market add-on done in the retrospective light of whom he targeted. But his message would have been the same whoever he’d attacked, and we know this because he mentioned numerous times that if people don’t like the US and are not proud to be an American, then they can clear off elsewhere…..

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:52 pm

Spot on Alex

James Taylor

17th July 2019 at 3:50 pm

Well said Brendan. They truly are symbiotic. They need each other.

Trump is a gift to the woke left. He allows them to say, “we told you so” and of course the woke left are a gift to Trump by making the Democrats unelectable.

As for Trump’s racism. Maybe. “Go back to where you came from” is certainly something racists have traditionally said.

Although I live abroad in Thailand and when Westerners moan about the Land of Smiles (and boy don’t some of them moan), it’s common to hear “go back to where you came from”.

There’s nothing intrinsically racist about it. It’s a simple and logical and warranted response to someone who badmouths the country and isn’t an indigenous Thai.

Trump is a buffoon who might just lack the sophistication to fathom the implications of his Tweet and likely doesn’t care.

Surely it is as likely that his Tweet could have been an idiotic, unpresidential response to their obvious dislike of America and the fact that they are the loudest and the wokest of them all, rather than because Trump hates brown people.

I’m doubt Trump would say that to Candace Owens who is black but supports him.

Either way, Trump is an idiot and such Tweets are a gift to some of the worst people around.

Shit, his flapping gums even empowers our UK woke set.

Thank you Trump, because of your idiocy now I get to hear about how racist the UK is from the Guardian and the BBC because you fan the grievance flames globally due to your lack of filter or is it a lack of brain cells?

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 11:03 am

Trump was elected because of the ‘liberal left elites’ it isn’t a case of they need one another, it’s a case of the left becoming more unhinged at losing ( like remainiacs over here ) the election and Trump is responding like for like .. in a playground sort of way .. who started this ?

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 3:37 pm

Do him, Jerry Oven-Kraut. Let’s see if ur heart’s in it….lol

John Millson

18th July 2019 at 1:44 pm

‘It’s a simple and logical and warranted response to someone who badmouths the country and isn’t an indigenous Thai.’
Maybe in more ‘mono-ethnic’ places, like Thailand this would have some ‘justified’ resonance. In the US the only true indigenous people are the First Nations.
Trump and his nemesis are in the ‘same boat’.
The man plays a stupid dirty game.

Robert Weitzer

17th July 2019 at 3:31 pm

Brendan’s powers of analysis fail him when it comes to American politics. Trump is simply responding to the claim to moral authority the congresswomen make based on their status as “women of color” and “immigrants” (yes, three of them cannot stop talking about their status as immigrants when it’s convenient) to exculpate themselves from the (supposed) collective crimes of American society. Brendan doesn’t understand that their style of politics irks Americans not because Americans are racist or ethnocentric – we are not ethnically homogenous like Britain – but because all Americans are descenendants of immigrants and don’t like when people make such a big deal about it. “Go-back” is not about skin color but about anti-Americanism, which is rightly seen as a reactionary tendency within the Democratic Party since the late 1960s. The Anti-Americanism of the congresswomen resonates not with immigrants but arrogant and entitled elites (many of whom are guilty “WASPs” and many of whom are the children of recently arrived immigrants of highly educated background) who look down on the majority of Americans as stupid and racist because that’s what they are taught at the Ivy Leagues. Even there democrats train them to be paranoid of everyone around them rather than gracious for the oppenness of american institutions. It’s their expressed distaste for american society (while reveling in their own celebrity-status) that makes us wish they would leave. It is indeed important not to overlook the fact that being American is seen as a choice, not a fixed ethnic fact. Some countries don’t allow their citizens to leave.

Robert Weitzer

17th July 2019 at 3:40 pm

It is important to add that they are not being criticized for being critical of America, but for demonizing the society at large while exculpating themselves by associating themselves with supposedly hybrid American identities – so they can have it both ways – american when convenient – “immigrant” “person of color” when otherwise convenient. They don’t use reason to criticize, but use emotion claims of rhetorical violence to deligitimize their opponents right to free speech under the first amendment.

James Taylor

17th July 2019 at 4:05 pm

Good point. As much as Brendan is right that NF types always used to say “go back to your own country”, Omar, Cortez and Tlaib clearly hate America and trade on their identities as outsiders fighting against the world’s worst white supremacy.

They might not say it explicitly but it is clear that they love their immigrant roots far more than they love the evil white supremacist America which, in their eyes, was built on slavery and the genocide of people like them…..sacred people of colour

Steve Roberts

17th July 2019 at 4:22 pm

You accuse O’Neill of a failure of analysis by insisting that yours is correct and his the opposite regards the charges of racism. I can only assume it is your rush to defend Trump that exposes the shallowness of your analysis. Your claim is that Trump is defending ” Americanism” something that apparently all Americans – because of the history of how the country was built – accept as defined by Trump unquestionably or to the point that to question it’s basis is paramount to been unpatriotic.
The logic then is that Trump is challenging their patriotism or lack of it. Now i am absolutely no supporter of the liberal left and the authoritarian identitarians like AOC, actually nor of Trump but the term “Americanism/Patriotism” is not some casual throwaway line , it is a fully loaded political term that Trump chooses to use advantageously as if it has universal approval.
That frankly is ridiculous. MAGA may be a catchy phrase and used to define opposition to the liberal left but it does not automatically carry any universally held positiveness, in fact the A.O.C.’s of this world are challenging this directly, what it means to be American.
Until such times as there is an openly debated and settled acceptance of what Americanism/Patriotism really means and what sincere values and belief systems/morals it contains neither Trump nor A.O.C can rightly claim that mantle , it remains contested.
In these circumstances it is clear that Trump used the words he did deliberately and against people that O’Neill noted Trump regards as “..Trump is down on gobby women of colour and Mexicans…” That’s pretty obvious and undeniable. The rest of the article is just as balanced and to the point.

Robert Weitzer

17th July 2019 at 4:52 pm

No, the difference is that I provide an analysis (correct or incorrect) of their rhetorical and political strategy, which is the immediate context of Trump’s tweets, within a framework of what such rhetorical tropes mean to american society in a broader context (my analysis of which can also be disputed). Brendan simply states that the tweets are racist and there can be no arguing about it. From this starting point he creates an abstracy equivalency between right and left identity politics that concedes to much to the platitudes of the culture wars. This article reads like typical American left/Marxist ambivalence about identity politics. It stops well short of a ruthless critique of everything existing by conceding to a commonplace narrative from the start.

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 11:29 am

Perhaps a perusal of the American constitution may clear up one or two things for you.. mainly what is expected of you once you are an American citizen.
Trump defends the constitution, some like it some don’t and they can demonstrate that belief. it doesn’t invalidate the constitution though.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:04 pm

Peeved Gobbett’s.

Ive never seen anyone write so much and yet say so little ever. Never ever. How about you give account when prompted in the future.

Jane 70

17th July 2019 at 2:52 pm

The Donald’s latest salvo seems to have achieved the result of more or less splitting the Democrats,even though The House has voted and denounced him,and the tweets.

As for the Squad; will their policies really find favour amongst more moderate Democrats? I wouldn’t have thought so.

Jim Lawrie

17th July 2019 at 9:36 pm

Or possibly “will their policies find favour amongst … ” democrats who wish to be re-elected?

Donald Trump has very neatly and nicely drawn attention to the contempt in which these people hold not so much The USA, but rather, his supporters. His tweet is a reworking of the New Testament – take the plank out of your own eye before you try taking the skelf out of mine – .

The overarching compulsion to criticise him on every petty detail is in fact a proxy for expressing their scorn for those who voted for him.

Danny Rees

17th July 2019 at 2:26 pm

So Brendan is saying that racists and those who oppose racism are just as bad an intolerant as each other.

Ok.

Simon Giora

17th July 2019 at 5:05 pm

In their degree of intolerance, yes.

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 11:24 am

D Rees
No he isn’t , kindly read the article.

Francis Lonergan

17th July 2019 at 2:14 pm

No they weren’t racist, it is only because the people he is talking about are not white that they are considered so. If he said the same thing about white Swedes, Germans or Irish it would not be a problem.

Danny Rees

17th July 2019 at 2:25 pm

Yes they would because he is telling people from another country to go back to where they come from.

Dime Bar.

Emmett Elvin

17th July 2019 at 2:42 pm

And then ‘come back’ when they’ve demonstrated their ability to fix basic problems in their family’s country of origin. You left that part out, didn’t you?

Francis Lonergan

17th July 2019 at 2:49 pm

And in the circumstances I outlined you think it would be racist? Is nationality and race the same thing?

Jerry Owen

17th July 2019 at 10:17 pm

The irony if your post . You have an enormous plank in your eye

Cathal Barry

18th July 2019 at 12:12 am

Nationality ≠ Race. Your thesis falls on this point. Xenophobic maybe. Unpleasant certainly. Racist? No cigar.

QED.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:07 pm

Hi Francis. It’s Anna Bortion, Anna Borrence, Les Chatte.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 12:08 pm

You wanna discuss that Jerry Oven-Kraut?

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:23 pm

Almost forget..Miss AnnThrope too.

Emmett Elvin

17th July 2019 at 2:03 pm

Sorry to see you guilty of the same sin of omission as corporate media on this story, Brendan. The ‘Go back to where you came from’ would indeed be a standard racist trope, were it not for the rest of the quote which you chose to omit. It’s the part where Trump says ‘and then come back when you’ve fixed things there’. Rather takes the wind out of the racist sails, doesn’t it? You know, the part you decided to not tell your readers about. Fail.

Francis Lonergan

17th July 2019 at 2:18 pm

Yes, it is the same as the omissions made about the actual content of what Roger Scruton said, that Spiked complained about.

Eric Praline

17th July 2019 at 3:15 pm

Why should they have to go to countries they’ve never lived in to fix anything? Should some Yanks come back to Blighty to fix our problems?

Emmett Elvin

17th July 2019 at 4:04 pm

Eric – an interesting question. If they were first or second generation British immigrants to the US and spent the entire time slagging off America and its institutions, how do you think that would be perceived?

Jim Lawrie

17th July 2019 at 9:49 pm

As they they politick much about their provenance from those countries it is there to be had. It is not, as they think, off limits.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:24 pm

Hi Emmett. Its Anna Bortion. Good to sse you back.

John Millson

17th July 2019 at 1:59 pm

It’s the malevolence of the man which is so remarkable. What’s his problem? A dad who wacked him round the head continually? A mum who told him to stop crying?
Isn’t a President meant to care about all the citizens? This simply divides and green-lights psychos.
Very scary. Very nasty.

Winston Stanley

17th July 2019 at 5:35 pm

Americans need to stop trying to blame their parents for all of their own personal problems and failures. Every USA drama serial eventually pivots on the influence of “evil daddy” or occasionally “evil mummy.” Grow up and show some respect to your parents.

Jerry Owen

17th July 2019 at 10:19 pm

What about the malevolence of those he criticizes ?
The insult of referring the loss of thousands in the twin towers terror attack as ‘ some victims’ .

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:03 pm

Jerry Oven-Kraut.

I want this to be the last time that l call you this silly name.

Is John Millson a trolll, or just deluded? Let’s find out together. And that has to include Linda, Wattie and Jon. And perhaps John Millson too. I’ll give anyone a chance. I don’t tolerate nazis tho.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:11 pm

I went too far with Steve Moxon and completely misjudged the situation. I came to understand some time ago that there are two kinds of people…cool people and not-cool people. Steve Moxon is cool. Wattie is cool. Linda is cool. Neil is cool.

You are not cool .Sleeve Gay is not cool. Tommie the Commie is not cool. Anti Moreswill is not cool. Peeved Gobbett’s is not cool. Wendy KomeInHere is not cool.

Even Smella Kneelin’ is cool in her own way, but Jerry Oven-Kraut, you are not cool. And that’s why your nazism comes thru.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:18 pm

Lolz..even l can l have my jokes…Smella Kneelin’ is obviously not cool at all…but Ms Williams just as obviously is….It’s just how it is Jerry Oven-Kraut….and it just means that you have to try extra harder not to be a nazi….do you get that?

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:41 pm

Did you see that Jerry Oven-Kraut? Did you see how l was able to perceive….before l go on here l must give Linda Payne the credit she deserves. I’m a gentle soul Jerry Oven-Kraut, and somewhat naive. My first inclination upon being accused by you of being a fifth-columnist…was self-inspection…that’s because l respected you.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 1:45 pm

I’m extremely grateful to Linda. I’m pretty thick. I should never, ever have given you any kind of credit …

You are obviously a nazi..you need to reform.

Hana Jinks

18th July 2019 at 3:50 pm

…..and I’d just like to bring awareness to the lesson here.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13%3A9-12&version=NIV

We can only see so much, the implication being that none of us can see everything.

We need you Jerry. There are things that you can see that other’s can’t. We need you Jerry.

Cody Bailey

17th July 2019 at 1:19 pm

Point No.1: They were not racist.

Racism is making value judgements about people based on race or more commonly simply skin color. Confusing immutable characteristics like skin color, sex or body shape with malleable characteristics such as politics, philosophy or culture is the territory of morons. Deliberately conflating them is the territory of liars.
Guess what Brendan? Suck up to the pinkos all you like, they are still going to throw you under the bus.

Cody Bailey

17th July 2019 at 1:21 pm

Ouch. It looks like I am mistaken. Turns out Trump is a horrible bigot.

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/07/16/looks-like-trump-didnt-delay-harriet-tubman-bill/

Jerry Owen

18th July 2019 at 11:04 am

So did I … must have missed the BBC that day !

In Negative

17th July 2019 at 1:37 pm

I’ve been rolling this one around my tiny brain for a few days now.

What is it, exactly, to tell an American born citizen that they should go home and sort their own country out before lecturing us about ours? If not racist, it’s sure as hell something.

To emphasize skin colour over place of birth in order to establish someone’s belonging, it’s a bit fuckin odd ain’t it? Even in Trump’s maze of mirage and mirrors, this was a bit low.

Cody Bailey

17th July 2019 at 10:11 pm

The only people I hear emphasizing skin color are lefty shitweasels. This one is a real gem:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/14/rep_ayanna_pressley_we_dont_need_any_more_brown_faces_that_dont_want_to_be_a_brown_voice.html

Pressley in a nutshell: “You darkies better stay on the plantation!”

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