Is it time to end the lockdown?

We need to at least to inquire into the political motivations for the Lockdowns i.e. are they ONLY about health concerns? I think not.

Why did our leadership cop out to the China Authoritarian Model?

Are we supposed to “Get Used” to this objectionable political propaganda referred to as the “New Normal”?

Speaking as a philosophy prof in the Socratic Gadfly tradition, What the HELL does the New Normal mean? How can a passing virus change our entire social and political liberties Forever!?

In short, is the New Normal a Coup to impose the China Model on free societies?

THAT is far more threatening to Western free societies than the bloody virus! Do you guys know what I mean?

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Curiously, the WHO also congratulated the Spanish government on its handling of the Covid-19 crisis. We’ve been under curfew here for six weeks and there’re still 16 days to go ‘at least’. I’m not sure why the panel here said that Spain was ‘coming out of a lockdown’. In what way? The schools are still closed with no likelihood of their opening again before late May. Sánchez has graciously indicated that shops could be open ‘mid-May’, and they’re still banging on about restricting access to beaches (which means ‘social distancing’ rules being observed). In Madrid the rent-a-bike service re-opened two days ago but it’s compulsory to use disposable gloves! There’s no logic to that at all. From Monday April 27th children are finally being allowed out but the conditions for their ‘release’ are onerous: not being more than one km from home, an hour maximum away, no access to parks and with a maximum of being with three brothers or sisters, the list goes on. In a similar vein to the UK, the Spanish have gone along with these draconian measures. If in Berlin and in the Dixie states people have been protesting, in Spain not a whimper.

What happens if, as the statistics presently suggest, people from the BAME community and obese people are proven to be at a significant risk of catching and/or dying from Covid-19? We seem to be quite content to propose locking everyone up over the age of 70 for around a further year until a vaccine is found. Are we going to be as comfortable telling all Black, Middle Eastern and Asian people along with all those over a certain BMI that they have to stay in isolation while us skinny white sorts saunter around in freedom?

James Knight,there was an effective treatment,Hydroxychloroquine,which should have been given to EVERYBODY,in different doses depending on whether existing conditions existed.That,allied to Zinc and an inflammatory would have saved many lives.The media gave it a thumbs down because of adverse risk without any thought as to risk versus certain death once hospitalised on a ventilator.Paludrine was a drug given to british soldiers serving in malaria ridden countries.Very rarely did malaria strike and furthermore I never saw any adverse effects.In early January when I first read about this virus I decided I would buy some.The surprise was that there was none to be had anywhere so somebody had either bought it all up or Govs had ordered for it to be removed from pharmacy shelves or,perhaps the chinese had bought it to sell back to us at a profit,they managed to do that with masks etc so why not control the only known cure.Our makers,in Westminster are totally despicable and our NHS is choc a bloc with those whose brains have been
sterilised and hung out to dry.Allied to a complacent public the situation is,or going to be chaotic,millions of people will die thanks to deliberate acts making everybody’s lives pure hell,all for a pill costing a few pence.If the Government had said”go out and spit on each other,”no doubt we would have done that too.I am 83 and a carer to my wife,are the immortal words”should I worry”resonate?

the cigarette thing isn’t entirely counter-intuitive; perhaps our public health researchers could put some Covid-19s in a petri dish, blow smoke over them and see how they manage. If they all die, q.e.d. PHE and the WHO could become terribly conflicted though, so it might not be in the public, er, interest, er, roobarb roobarb….

They’ve already ended the lockdown on Westminster Bridge.

More proof that this government have lost their minds….

“New face mask advice explained as UK COVID-19 deaths reach 18,000″….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3Qe8nRK7w

This was a reply to ‘Vivian Darkbloom’ (his comment below).

Yes.
It never should have started.
It’s completely unaffordable, causes more problems, including deaths, than it saves, and is about the most inequitable measure ever, destroying the lives of many, whilst simply providing a long paid holiday for others.
It’s the single worst UK governmental decision in modern history — possibly since the decision needlessly to enter, indeed thereby create a ‘world’ war in 1914.

A brave new world without pubs. I feel sorry for all the red wall Brexiteers who took the leap of faith and voted for Boris Johnson in the last election in order to, at the very least, “get Brexit done”.

Bo-Jo’s only been in power for a few short months and within that time he’s managed to inflict more damage on this country than the Luftwaffe could have done in a thousand years.

Not an uncommon view….

“This is what you get when you vote Brexit. They place you under house arrest, take away your livelihood, destroy your economy, and threaten you with mandatory vaccination.”

“Oxford University to begin human trials with ‘breakthrough’ coronavirus vaccine.”

“$20 million donated to Oxford by the Gates foundation in the last financial year”.

“Testing and tracing”.

Coming soon: Landfill sites overwhelmed with discarded iPhones.

The road to Hell is paved with nice middle class boys desperately peddling downhill backwards in order to avoid being labelled “conspiracy theorists”.

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying “this is their new hoax.” During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.

“The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants” (Albert Camus)

This is madness; collective insanity. An experiment conducted on an entire population, on almost the entire planet.

If anything, the house arrest and street surveillance policies have shown the incompetence and malevolency of the British government and establishment, the otiose political “opposition”, the state, national institutions, “our” NHS, et al. We are animals to be corralled and controlled, if necessary by the full force of the Coronavirus Act 2020, an act passed without detailed scrutiny by a complacent Parliament which then bolted for their Easter break. We have gone from freedom – hard won after centuries of dissent and repression – to authoritarianism in a heartbeat. We are seen as vectors of disease, as little more than filth to be worked and managed by our betters until we are non-productive: “time to sign your DNR certificate Mrs Smith; oh, if you can’t do it yourself one of the staff will help you”.

Isolate the elderly and vulnerable; no visitors in care homes and no staff travelling from their homes to their workplace bringing pathogens in their wake; adequate protection for care home workers; shut the borders – easy enough as we live on an island; no commercial flights or, at least, full screening for those who have to travel to the UK. Freedom to assemble and go about our business for the rest of us.

There may very well be no vaccine. Eventually almost all of us will get the virus, if we haven’t had it already (I’m fairly sure my family has had it and recovered with minor symptoms and small discomfort). The alternative is a rolling house arrest, euphemistically labelled “lock down”, which might continue for years. Yes, years, as successive waves of the virus manifest and panicky governments double down on policy whilst quietly constructing a panopticon biostate “for our own good”.

How can one argue with kindness? Our betters, the smart people, are helping us! Unlike the boot in the face of Orwellian fascism, the therapeutic state is friendly and only seeks to protect us. But we must comply if we know what’s good for us because the kindly ones have our best interests at heart; they have the university degrees and certification, the money and power, to prove it.

Make no mistake: those who have the power and privilege hate, despise, and are terrified of the mass who are subject to the depredations of that power and privilege. Left / Right politics are meaningless now: the dividing line is between those who have faith in the incredible capacity of humans to do, to make, to solve problems and those who deny us our agency to control our own lives; those who prize hard-won freedom and authoritarians who would curtail liberties; rationalists and those driven by emotion; those who cherish the advances of the European Enlightenment and those who would return us to a state of happy serfdom; the brave and the fearful; the slaves and the free.

When a leader of the Labour Party, established to support the interests of the working class, stands up in the HoC and calls for further redundancies of workers in the name of unattainable safety and the benevolence of the biostate, then the pretence is over. We see the enemy and it is not us, the little people who have complied with their demands for social responsibility with good grace. Enough!

Very soon we will need to rise up and resist in order to defend freedom. I suggest a meet-up in Parliament Square of those without fear who can be as certain as they can be that they will not put the elderly and vulnerable at risk. We will shake hands, hug, kiss, and celebrate our shared humanity and essential need for social contact. We will love each other, laugh in the face of fate, and mock tyranny. We must resist this misanthropic legerdemain.

There is no way this policy of house arrest can continue into the next year without unnecessary deaths and the trashing of the small economy (of course the multinationals and tech firms will thrive; yippee for them). The cure will be worse than the disease. I hope the government’s announcement yesterday of an extension that could last until after Christmas will concentrate minds.

Long-term, I’m more concerned about the creeping Islamicisation of this country than coronavirus. No good can come of this subservience to an irrational medieval death cult. The BBC appears to have adopted Islam as the established religion of this country:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z499kmn

We must resist this or more bloodshed and suffering will follow, and there will be an end to the Christian liberties we have built up over centuries.

SDG

Lockdowns are not meant to save lives. They were meant to save the NHS by flattening the curve. Nobody mentions the fact that there are no effective treatments. The trend for home births may have been taken over by a trend for home deaths. People with symptoms want to avoid hospitals because if what they have is not covid19 and they then get covid19 in hospital it could be more fatal. It has been suggested that ventilators may do more harm than good. One person on death’s door recovered when he was placed face down instead of on his back as they are normally positioned when on a ventilator.

If you are a vulnerable person the best you can hope for is to get to herd immunity as soon as possible.