Has lockdown sent us all mad?

Konstantin Kisin, Chris Snowdon and Tom Slater discuss wokeness, corona and Katie Hopkins.

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What’s driving the BLM cultural revolution? Will there be a second lockdown? How can we fight back against Big Tech censorship? Konstantin Kisin joins Chris Snowdon and Tom Slater for the latest episode of Last Orders.

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Jonathan Castro

29th June 2020 at 8:56 pm

Millions of us reject the “new normal”.
All the silly rules should be ditched, now, so we can get back to living properly.
The economic crash is coming.

Christopher Tyson

28th June 2020 at 8:36 pm

The question of the BLM slogan on football shirts, breaching their own impartiality rules is interesting. BLM seem to have achieved the status of being above politics, the state has previously ascribed to god and the queen. Even within the public services support for BLM can be openly expressed with the expectation that there will be supported. I’ve previously written that if you joined the civil service 25 or 30 years ago, you would have to keep quiet about any left wing views or activities that you have been involved in. Today a member of the SWP (socialist workers party) would feel right at home. Curiously we have a Labour opposition that seeks a return to the political centre, and a Conservative government and yet the backdrop is an uncontested left wing
orthodoxy or conventional wisdom. In short BLM are not considered as political, clearly a success for the Left.
Chris Snowdon had some warm words for ‘Kick it Out’, but BLM are what ‘Kick it Out’ would like to be. I imagine BLM as brand managers very pleased with themselves, for dominating the agenda and controlling the narrative. Many of us have argued at length about the whole neo-Marxist thing, but post-modernism and identity politics developed in opposition to Marxism, indeed black people in general have tended to be sceptical of the Left, a case of any port in a storm. I did see a BLM spokesperson on newsnight once, and I commented at the time that he was like a classical American pragmatist, I think it was in relation to slavery compensation, his view was that everyone else was claiming compensation (for all kinds of ills) ‘why not us’.
For the new identitarians history is about promoting your brand, and political expediency, slavery provides a simple and clear narrative, the history of colonialism, imperialism, independence and national liberation struggles and the lives of millions of black people who have been born lived and died in the post slavery world is perhaps to complex for a simple slogan.

Tony Benn

17th July 2020 at 6:49 am

Like all movements they don’t cease to exist when the problem ceases to exist – The NSPCC being a prime example. Set up by Victorians to improve the rights and life of children they now raise money so they can phone the social services when people make a complaint. I wonder how many times they rang the NSPCC and lobbied MPs when Rochdale and the other child grooming incidents were happening?

Linda Payne

28th June 2020 at 5:43 pm

I’m already mad, I’ve been locked down all my life, its about time someone published my great body of work but I’m not a minority, I’m not middle class, I don’t know the right people, I’m not related to the right people and I dont do political correctness

Kevin Turner

28th June 2020 at 10:27 am

The underlying logic of BLM, as an organisation, is neither Marxist nor neo-Marxist, its anarchist.

Christopher Tyson

28th June 2020 at 11:56 pm

In the UK we have an black establishment of middle class media types, celebrities and politicians that mirrors the American model. Many of these supposed activists have taken the knee before Her Majesty the Queen, they’re certainly not anarchist, identity politics has its own ideological forms.
There’s a possibility that BLM will be successful in invigorating a black political establishment that already exist, and what I have called the ‘black ideology’, middle class black professionals preaching a form of black separatism while working, gaining senior positions, and being paid in white institutions, with the uncritical support of white liberals. Black radicals playing on white liberal guilt and being rewarded for their ‘radicalism’. The black working class are at best a stage army in this drama. The black middle class radicals flirt with a faux ghetto mentality, the black working class are often trapped in the physical reality, black separatist rhetoric is not going to help the black working class, but it does appear to be helping the careers of the new black literati.

Mor Vir

27th June 2020 at 2:39 pm

Down with that sort of thing!

– Father Ted creator Graham Linehan is banned from Twitter after stating ‘men aren’t women’ in row with trans activists

Mr Linehan has gained notoriety in recent years for his vocal opinions on transgender rights and feminism, and he yesterday wrote ‘men aren’t women tho’ in response to a Tweet wishing a happy Pride to transgender Women’s institute members.

Twitter said Mr Linehan has been banned for ‘repeated violations of our rules against hateful conduct and platform manipulation’. – DM

Mor Vir

27th June 2020 at 3:20 pm

That’s mad, Ted!

Gordon Te Gopher

27th June 2020 at 6:43 pm

Careful now

Tony Benn

17th July 2020 at 6:54 am

Linehan was happy with the cancel culture while patrolling Twitter and sending mobs of people to attack others whose views he disagreed with, I’ve absolutely no problem with the same thing happening to him. And don’t for one moment imagine he has changed his mind about free speech, it’s just become important to him now he’s been deplatformed.

Armitage Shanks66

27th June 2020 at 1:00 am

One person comes to mind, with no journo qualifications, been in trouble with the law and holds the deeply offensive view that women are, well… women.
That’s JK Rowling fcuked then. Who’d want to read anything penned by a nasty “transphobe” anyway?

Gordon Te Gopher

27th June 2020 at 12:58 pm

Almost billionaire Rowling also holds some pretty nasty views about working class Brexit voters. She didn’t make her money from politics but she sure as hell wants to use the power of her celebrity to give her leverage to air her political opinions.

She should probably stick to writing children’s books.

Michel Houllebeq

26th June 2020 at 10:58 pm

Not really, immigration has – BLM Violence on the streets and Asylum seekers going on multiple mass murder rampages while the boats keep coming every single day .

Carl Bung

26th June 2020 at 3:11 pm

‘How can we fight against big tech censorship”

Well it’s like asking people on the Isle of Wight how best to ensure the Isle of Wight County Press employs a young woman with deeply offensive views.

The thing is, it’s up to the IWCP who they employ and if a young woman has no qualifications, a criminal record and a load of offensive views, it’s unlikely the IWCP will give her a weekly column.

Censorship comes in many forms, right Spiked.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

1st July 2020 at 1:34 am

Except that Big Tech, especially Twitter, advertised itself as a place where anyone could get their views aired instantly without censorship as long as they were legal (“free speech wing of the free speech party” although Twitter are apparently now saying that was a joke, obviously, surely no one could have taken them seriously!?!)

They use the public taxpayer funded and developed infrastructure of the internet.

They provide monopoly public utilities (no, you can’t just set up your own rival – how do you Gab or Parler to someone on Twitter or vice versa, never mind how do you promote it on Twitter or Google?).

Effectively they are the new public square/town hall meeting.

Could Ma Bell have cut off telephone calls if they disagreed with the legal political viewpoints being discussed?

Could they have closed the accounts of C/conservative or Republican customers because of their views?

Imagine if Ma Bell had interfered with 50% of Republicans’ phone calls and closed 10% of the accounts of Republican candidates during an election year while giving Democrats free rein including to phone up and abuse Republicans?!

Would that be legal never mind acceptable?!

The fact that the US courts haven’t clamped down on this already just shows how partisan they are.

And yes, it is illegal!

If an organisation makes rules, under common law they have to stick to them too!

And there are precedents stopping landlords trying to stifle free speech on their property!!

Surely that would apply even more so to Ma Bell or Twitter!!!

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