This election is a fight for the soul of democracy

If we use our ballots wisely, we can seriously wound the anti-democratic elites.

Brendan O'Neill

Brendan O'Neill

Topics Brexit Politics UK

It’s on. At last. A General Election. For weeks Labour and the Lib Dems blocked Boris Johnson’s plea for an election. They engaged in a deeply cynical form of voter suppression, denying the public the thing we so urgently need: the democratic right to pass judgement on this zombie parliament and on its members who are brazenly reneging on the promise they made in their 2017 manifestos to uphold the vote for Brexit. But today, finally, Jeremy Corbyn and others, perhaps aware that continually preventing an election made them look like cowards and autocrats, have relented. They now say they will back a public vote. About time. Bring it on.

The importance of this election cannot be overstated. So much hinges on it – politically, historically, even psychologically. In this election, the people have a brilliant opportunity to push back against the most dangerous and authoritarian wing of the 21st-century establishment: the Remainer elite. All those sections of the political class who over the past three years have demonstrated their contempt for democratic principles, their fear and loathing of the judgement of the masses, and their willingness to upend hard-fought-for rights and freedoms in order to preserve their grip on political power, on the moral order and on the very parameters of public debate – we now have the chance to weaken these elitists and to make it clear to the entire establishment that such behaviour will not be tolerated again. It is a chance we must seize with vigour.

The great thing about this election is that it returns power to the people. The tragedy of Brexit is that this huge, unprecedented public vote for change, for a renewal of our democratic institutions, came to be co-opted and dominated by the fearful, technocratic establishment. It became entirely their property. The people’s cry for a break from the EU and a restoration of the ideal of democratic accountability ended up as little more than a talking point among politicians – mostly politicians who are of course opposed to breaking from the EU and submitting themselves to greater democratic accountability. So they frustrated the people’s cry; they stifled it, thwarted it, depicted it as something terrible and dangerous. It was one of the greatest betrayals of democracy in modern times.

But now the question of Brexit – and of democracy more broadly – is coming back to the people. Politicians are submitting themselves to our judgement. They have no choice. After all, we are their masters, however much they might hate or try to deny that fact. It is essential that we take seriously our recovery of political power. That we behave as democratic citizens who have the right and the authority to determine the fate of the political class and the future of the nation. There is one key task in this election: to frustrate the ambitions of the anti-democratic elites by voting against them in any way we can and by voting for the radical democratic change so many of us voted for in 2016.

The balance of power in this country has got to be shifted. We know that the Remainer establishment is fractured and on the defensive. We know it lives in dread of the people’s judgement. We know that the arrogance with which it demeans and frustrates the vote for Brexit is born more from desperation than confidence. And now we have it within our power to further isolate these elites. If we do so, we can hold back many of the backward trends they represent: anti-democracy, paternalism, PC, the urge to censor certain forms of political speech, a preference for globalism over social solidarity, and a greater trust in middle-class experts over the wisdom of the crowd. If we use our ballots wisely, we can temper and tame these trends, or certainly the people who rally around these trends.

spiked won’t be supporting a particular party. Our advice is to vote for the candidate who best represents or understands the Brexit spirit and whose victory would send the clearest possible message to the Remain establishment that their stranglehold on political progress is over. That could be a Tory candidate, a Labour candidate or a Brexit Party candidate: if they are committed to upholding the vote of 2016, consider giving them your vote in this election. The message to the establishment must be crystal clear: the people of this nation will never tolerate the usurping of a democratic vote, and we will push back against every one of you who has spent the past three years trying to do that.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show. Subscribe to the podcast here. And find Brendan on Instagram: @burntoakboy

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A Marshal

8th November 2019 at 12:28 pm

‘Remainer establishment is fractured and on the defensive’ . I put it to you that you are seriously underestimating the REMAIN elite. The BBC are leading the offensive push, significant numbers of EU immigrants are now entitled to vote, Project Fear has had another 3 years of relentless pushing, cajoling, mocking, slapping, and kicking. Remain are uniting – SinnFein/Green/SNP/Plaid/Libdem conspiracy etc. Many ordinary Brits will need to summon up significant courage, determination and grit to see this bid for freedom, justice and self-government through to conclusion. This battle won’t end at this election – unless REMAIN win – then Leave will be buried. Remain have little to lose – they’ll fight on; Leave have everything to lose – Leave need to understand that they face annihilation, to have any chance. It appears that Farage does not/will not understand this. I’m holding my breath, frankly.

Ug Ancient

4th November 2019 at 3:29 pm

This Election will produce some shocks, it isn’t clear that the conservatives will win and The Brexit Party has mostly polled equal to the Tories or higher outside of the “Official” Polls which are meaningless.
The Tories are closet Remainers who are responsible for signing us up to the treaty of Rome in the beginning.
For me this is reinforced by their villainization of the Brexit Party.

Forlorn Dream

30th October 2019 at 11:28 am

It would be nice to see a coalition government between the Tories and the Brexit Party.

Even nicer would be to see Labour totally wiped out due to their open betrayal of their voters. The rest don’t matter, they’re already nothing.

If the above happens there’s a really good chance we could finally have a clean break from the EU.

Marvin Jones

31st October 2019 at 1:30 pm

Boris seems to have this narcissistic belief that he could do it all on his own. It is a real risk, as Nigel, if he wanted could destroy the Tory voting figures. There comes a time when one has to take the gloves off and be totally ruthless with the competition, and together, they could do that.

Michael Lynch

30th October 2019 at 11:05 am

This GE might just turn out to prove how undemocratic the country actually is. With no prospect of a Con/BP pact then the Leave vote will be split in many areas. So even if the combined total of BP and Tory votes demonstrate a clear Leave majority you’ll still end up with a Remain Lab MP! Oh, how the likes of Thornberry will crow on then about victory! The only upshot of this GE is that many of the floor crossers will get their just desserts.

Marvin Jones

31st October 2019 at 1:35 pm

The remain cowards have the same problem, with the lib dems and Steptoe’s mob. But with a bit of a nudge from Cummings and the ERG, Boris does the right thing.

Bridget Jones

30th October 2019 at 6:49 am

Corbyn is calling this GE a once in a generation opportunity. So where have I heard that before… the result will only be implemented once any choice is taken off the table apparently

Brandy Cluster

30th October 2019 at 2:11 am

This isn’t just a problem in the UK. The USA is politically divided, Canada has re-elected Trudeau with a minority, NZ got Adern only through an arrangement with a minority party, Australia has a government with a slim 1 seat majority after 3 years of instability with a lost majority. The minor parties are filling the void of dissatisfied voters in the English-speaking world who are fed up with mainstream parties. I think Nigel Farage has a good chance in your elections. But your system of government is sadly resembling Italian politics just now. Best wishes for December 12.

Cecilia Tallis

30th October 2019 at 1:26 am

Whatever the result of the vote will be, my deepest admiration to Boris Johnson

Brandy Cluster

30th October 2019 at 2:12 am

He was ridiculed as shambolic from the day he wanted to take the PM-ship. But at least he has some chops. Taking the lesson of Trump, it seems only a radical disrupter can change things political in modern democracies.

Cecilia Tallis

30th October 2019 at 1:24 am

I am absolutely happy about a vote, but people can be weird, easily indoctrinated, manipulated by the press. So let’s pray they will vote wisely for Brexiter MPs, On my side living in Jeremy Corbyn’s constituency, I have not much hope.

jessica christon

29th October 2019 at 11:09 pm

I’ve already heard talk that Nigel Farage is being “pressured” not to stand any candidates because it might help Labour, but that’s tosh. The real reason they don’t want TBP standing is to deny the electorate any real choice, and I just hope Farage sees it all for what it is and stands his people. Also, I don’t believe any of the polls saying that most people want Boris’ surrender treaty – outside the Westminster bubble I think they’ll find that both leavers and remainers alike hate it.

Perverted Lesbian

30th October 2019 at 7:32 am

At this point voting for the Brexit party is a wasted vote, unless someone smarter than I can explain how voting this way will do anything other than split the vote, thus throwing a lifeline to Labour (who I hope are decimated come 12/12) I shall be voting Tory.
No deal is pie in the sky, and the only way of ever having a slice of WTO is to get a Withdrawal agreement signed, then there is the next stage. Perhaps by then the Brexit Party can present itself better, as it stands, Farage had his moment, but he is a d1ldo and unpalatable, so if we don’t want Brexit revoked I say we have to vote Tory (there may be the odd exception in Northern seats where there will never be a Tory majority)

H McLean

29th October 2019 at 10:55 pm

Now that push comes to shove it’s clear there are no good choices.

The Tories? After the fiasco of May’s time as PM and all the turncoats who left the party, they don’t seem to offer a firm hand at all. Think about it, imagine they win a majority in their own right and form a new government. Do you really think they’re going to make a No Deal Brexit their first order of business? Forgive my scepticism but I don’t bloody think so.

Labour, SNP, Lib Dems, Greens, et al have too many zombie supporters to offer anything but even more EU globalist tyranny with a generous side-serving of politically correct insanity.

The Brexit Party sounds like they will do exactly what it says on the tin but the problem with Nigel Farage is he is Nigel Farage. He is a great orator but he has a propensity to succumb to political correctness just like the rest, and questions remain (boom-tish) over his staying power. In short, TBP sound too good to be true and I suspect many people will be very, very disappointed with them sooner or later. I hope I’m wrong.

I do hope someone comes through on delivering Brexit but this is politics we’re talking about, there are no fairy-tale endings.

Jerry Owen

30th October 2019 at 7:49 am

Nigel Farage is not pc , he is the man who broke the taboo on talking about immigration which was once the sole territory of the BNP. The rise of UKIP saw the demise of the BNP.
Farage is the most honest plain talking politician we have.
He gets my vote all day long.
As for TBP sounding too good to be true .. that is not an analytical tangible statement !

daniel wells

29th October 2019 at 9:36 pm

The EU have everything in place. Why do you think the libdems and snp and now labour agreed to an election? The EU have a lot of experience in rigging member nation’s elections. Greece, Italy and Ireland come to mind.

daniel wells

29th October 2019 at 9:45 pm

What did you say? Are you an EU denier???

Jill W

29th October 2019 at 8:27 pm

I fear canvassing will subject us to more shenanigans, with some candidates presenting as guardians of our workers’ rights, which apparently can only be implemented by the EU. For years workers have experienced asset stripping, restructuring, impossible relocation offers and, imposed zero hours contracts. These are global issues. The EU is not the cause. But neither is it the solution. Recent concern, particularly from Labour, has emerged too late for many. Unless employed in the public sector, extensive paid sick, compassionate and holiday leave, final salary pensions, union reps. etc., many of these rights are alien. UK democracy, without the imposition of further layers of bureaucracy, might expose some of the inequalities.
I believe the Lib Dems (with their renewed impetus) and other remain parties will be relentlessly campaigning and frankly they are good at what they do.
Some could barely contain their glee, getting one over on the PM because no longer can we leave on 31st. Every avenue towards progress was shut down, by stealth and strategy. The remit had failed. If ever there was a case of don’t pee on my boots and then tell me it’s raining……..
Ignoring the electorate while playing chess in parliament was clever. Tactically this was a win. But it was not wise.
If the outcome of this chicanery was to get one over on the general public then that was a serious error.

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 7:40 pm

I think the whole of the last paragraph above shows a naive trust in politicians.

Every Labour candidate is a remainer, alongside half the Conservatives, all of the SNP, Greens and

Dominic Straiton

29th October 2019 at 6:28 pm

Brexit is never going to go away because the thing it represents has been the dividing lines for thousands of years. Plato or Aristotle. Do you want freedom or not .Do you support the ideas of the English and American bill of rights or do you prefer to live in servitude to the all knowing state.

George Orwell

29th October 2019 at 5:46 pm

The issue is whether the British still have their centuries old, historic sense of individuality and enterprise after decades of debilitating negativism from within and control from Brussels outside.
This will be a test of national moral fibre and either we still have it or we don’t.

Barney Rubble

29th October 2019 at 5:27 pm

Look chaps and chapesses, it’s become bleedin’ obvious that we are not going to get an election, at least not a free and fair one. The remain bloc has manoeuvred itself into a position of power and power is NEVER surrendered voluntarily. The question is: what now? Bitter denunciations on the interwebs is not really going to cut much ice, is it.

Marvin Jones

31st October 2019 at 1:47 pm

We probably will never be able to get a free and fair election, but, we should make sure that ID is checked at the ballot box, postal voting is only allowed for special cases, students only vote once, and no voting for under age unexperienced in life children, and most importantly, foreigners voting in our country.

M Blando

2nd November 2019 at 4:30 pm

Um, it’s a long list is that Marvin. Concerning isn’t it.

Stephen J

29th October 2019 at 5:21 pm

So bearing in mind that Boris Johnson has just signed an agreement with the EU to extend art 50, because to not do so would mean that we unambiguously would have left on the 31st October, we know that he leads another remain party.

Best vote for the only party that wants to leave the EU, The Brexit Party.

Once you know that there is only one “leave” party, it is easy to know where to put a kiss on voting day.

You know it makes sense.

M Blando

2nd November 2019 at 4:34 pm

I really wish there was a clear understanding that the ‘deal’ option is entirely fictitious. It’s stay or no deal. Vote for anyone but TBP and you’ve choosing stay.

Jerry Owen

29th October 2019 at 5:06 pm

I see magic Grandpa is trying to get the vote for 16 year olds and EU nationals in the next GE, not cynical is he ! Boris is now threatening to cancel the GE.. just how bad is parliament ?
On a separate note.
I would just like to say that after the death of ISIS leader Al-Bagdadi, my thoughts are with Jeremy Corbyn at this difficult time.

Michael Lynch

29th October 2019 at 8:13 pm

I only hope that Boris and Cummings see sense and do some sort of back door deal with Farage over which Labour seats to run for. If not, the Leave vote will be split and could allow Labour to win. Isn’t this the problem with having Referendums in a country that does not have proportional representation? The two just aren’t compatible and it’s no wonder that our politicians can get away with what they are currently doing.

Jerry Owen

30th October 2019 at 8:00 am

Boris refuses to do a deal with Farage. The only way to get Brexit is a pact between Boris and Nigel.
This tells quite simply that Boris isn’t fighting for Brexit.
No question about it.
In reality Brexit is so close but Boris puts it way out on the horizon.
Damn him and damn his party.

Perverted Lesbian

29th October 2019 at 5:03 pm

I see Mr. Corbyn is trying to amend the bill to include voting rights to EU nationals as well as 16yr olds, it is against EU law for EU nationals to interfere in elections (or so I read)
I hope that Labour is absolutely decimated at this GE. Their contempt for the electorate needs to be reciprocated, in spades. Good riddance to Corbyn and his flunkies. Has there ever been a more ineffectual opposition party that this cretin?

Jerry Owen

29th October 2019 at 4:55 pm

My worry is that just like the expenses scandal some years ago people will just forgive and forget, at the time I honestly thought that would send seismic ripples through parliament, it didn’t . Johnson’s polling is worryingly high, he knows even with a cr*p deal ( which he has ) he will become PM his life’s ambition by all accounts. Why would he want to upset ‘remoaners’ if he can swing a bad deal on us ‘leavers’ ?
My MP is tory , but I cannot vote for him because he represents a party that has betrayed us for three years plus .. Ditto labour and the insignificant LibDems.
It is the BP party for me regardless. The BP will poll badly in my area as UKIP did, but this election has to be about principles. The main parties have stuffed us over the last three years plus we must give them a right royal stuffing back.
Don’t vote for any of them.

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 4:46 pm

The proposals to give EU Nationals and 16 year olds the vote makes clear that this is last chance saloon for all parties, and for citizenship to have any meaning.

Ian B

29th October 2019 at 3:25 pm

Tactical voting guide for Brexiters –

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 4:03 pm

Bookmarked into my politics folder and the answer to my suggestion below.

Perverted Lesbian

29th October 2019 at 4:53 pm

The link states that in my constitiency I should vote for the Brexit party, however at the last two elections there was less than 1000 majority for the Tories over Labour, so wouldn’t a vote for the Brexit party actually hand those types of seats to Labour? Wouldn’t it be splitting the vote, the opposite of what is needed?

Noggin The nog

29th October 2019 at 6:38 pm

Excellent. Many thanks (should be sent out to TBP members and others)

Stephen J

29th October 2019 at 6:54 pm

I just looked at the advice for people in my constituency and was advised that I should vote Tory to Leave. It is true that the Labour MP that currently occupies the seat is a well liked person. She replaced someone who was a tory and wasn’t, and moreover, he was one of the MayBot’s main political advisors… He has eased one of his friends in as PPC for the tories, and is actually remain as well.

So, sorry but it is a remain seat, and the best person to vote for is the former, even though she is Labour.

I will be x-ing Brexit Party.

Andrew Leonard

29th October 2019 at 11:54 pm


SNJ Morgan

3rd November 2019 at 4:48 am

Very good, but not sure how useful this is considering this parliament largely reneged on it’s promises?

Gordon McQueen

29th October 2019 at 3:24 pm

You can’t be independent as a member of the E.U. so the SNP hold a totally ambiguous position. Personally I’d like to see the SNP decimated in Scotland and at Westminster as they are divisive, and dangerous cult, totally clueless brainless and negative in every respect. many Scots are embarrassed at their antics.They will never vote for any brexit deal even if it was gold plated, a curse on them

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 4:42 pm

Gold plated à la SNP is “independence” under The EU and England paying alimony for the next 50yrs.

They suppress internal dissent and train their members in avoiding and closing down debate. Power is the be all and end all for them.

cliff resnick

29th October 2019 at 4:55 pm

I think the SNP modus operandi aka Blackmore and Sturgeon is to be so pathologically unpleasant that the rest of the UK will be relieved when they successfully become separated from the rest of the UK. I don’t say independent because they long to be under the yoke of the new Franco German empire, the Scots are generally thought to be serious about economics so it’s hard to understand why they think that the EU will shell out to get them over this long transition from heavy industry to whatever is direction of modern post industrial economies, whereas the UK sees it as helping our own, as in the Barnett formula etc. Still Romanticism seems to be strong and alive in “Pictland”.

Winston Stanley

29th October 2019 at 6:06 pm

Exactly Cliff, the British state is never going to let the English have another referendum, so the least that we can do is to support Indy2. The sooner that Scotland and Ireland get their independence, the sooner that England and Wales get ours. Then we can take it from there and maybe have a proper democracy for the first time. The two-party Westminster parliamentary needs to be broken up one way or another. Any way will do at this point.

cliff resnick

29th October 2019 at 7:32 pm

Winston I don’t know how you get to your contribution from mine, I believe in the union and am a bit niffed that the Irish problem was handled so badly it caused a hundred years ongoing of unnecessary problems

cliff resnick

29th October 2019 at 8:49 pm

Ah I see, should have been “If ever they succesfully leave the UK” not “when they will”, apologies to everyone else for clogging up ther thread

Marvin Jones

31st October 2019 at 1:55 pm

The SNP are in dire need of education in the understanding about what belonging in the UK actually means. BUT! failing that this is beyond their comprehension, we must cut them adrift.

John Millson

29th October 2019 at 3:04 pm

So blinkered and naive.
Post-Brexit the same bloated libertarian capitalist leaders will be there but with even more power. They won’t touch the House of Lords or the Monarchy or introduce PR.
The electorate will remain divided and rancourous.
What a parlous calamity.

Jerry Owen

29th October 2019 at 4:57 pm

And you John Millson are the perfect example of ‘rancorous’ !!

John Millson

30th October 2019 at 8:00 am

You can count on me, Jerry Owen!
I am relieved there’s going to be an election. Just hope we don’t get too many BXP nutjobs in Parliament. Oh, what a laugh…

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 3:00 pm

Good article Mr O’Neill.

We need a detailed history of how incumbents seeking re-election have voted and pronounced these last 3 years.

Steve Roberts

29th October 2019 at 2:59 pm

” …if they are committed to upholding the vote of 2016, consider giving them your vote in this election.”
That seems a very basic supportable criteria , an unequivocal position to take , it means defending the democratic instruction to leave ,to not be in , to not remain in the EU, yes a clean break brexit, to be a democrat.
And here is the problem, all the tories and other lackeys who voted for Johnsons surrender treaty, can be ruled out if the criteria above from BON is used, as can all the others who for over 3 years made it as clear as can be they want to entirely defeat brexit, that means defy our democratic instruction.
Does that leave anyone in the HOC worthy of us lending our vote to, maybe, one hand will do to count them .
So that leaves us then with TBP, and here is another problem, it is making all the right noises, denouncing , and rightly, so the surrender treaty of Johnson’s, but they are just words, to make change, to change politics for good means deeds.
So if the intention is to rid public life of the antidemocrats in the HOC , the obstacles to democracy surviving, why is TBP leadership, still now offering deals and pacts with the tories, it is driving wedges and doubt and causing divisions among those that voted to leave. TBP needs to urgently stop all this doubt make it clear it is the only vehicle available to defend democracy, to change politics for good, take on all the parties, remember, we are ready !!
I don’t see any other vehicle that is even offering to be worthy of ” …if they are committed to upholding the vote of 2016, consider giving them your vote in this election.” but they must , very soon put that into action, many people bought into the pledges it made, lives have been put on hold, hope and belief placed in the intentions of the party from candidates, supporters and the steadfast support in many communities, but it needs to stop the possible dilution and division, make it clear all the parties are the problem, the remainer elite, take them on.


29th October 2019 at 2:58 pm

Elites? Lol lol lol. Are you really trying to tell us that Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg are representative of the common people and not elite?!!! Do us a favour!

Steve Roberts

29th October 2019 at 4:00 pm

Jamie Pieri, those you mentioned and the ERG crowd et al may have voted leave, they tell us , and may have spoken of being democrats, but Johnson, and JRM voted for may’s deal, not to leave, antidemocratic against the democratic instruction, to remain and reform, and the others have just voted for johnsons treaty which is to remain and reform, and your point is ?

amanda hunter

30th October 2019 at 3:42 pm

Precisely, Steve Roberts! One wonders why people still can’t see through this charade. Surely it must be clear by now – even to the most loyal Tory-voting Brexiteer – that Boris’s deal AIN’T Brexit! Voting for a party that is prepared to sign us up to the worst ‘deal’ (Treaty) in history, one that locks us into the EU through the back door and trashes democracy in the process, is just sheer, irresponsible madness; no matter how many of the ERG claim it delivers Brexit, it doesn’t!

Jerry Owen

29th October 2019 at 5:09 pm

No. Next ?

James Knight

29th October 2019 at 5:26 pm

As bizarre as it sounds, that is the situation we find ourselves in thanks to Corbyn who has gone the “full Syriza” by stabbing in the back millions of traditional Labour voters who backed Leave. You might say also that Johnson is also like Syriza, as his deal is a kind of “surrender act”. It is only Corbyn that makes him look credible.

For years now, the left attacked and undermined free speech; now they are attacking and undermining democratic principles as well. It is not about which school you went to or how wealthy you are: it is a question of your politics being elitist. For example, many people from middle and working class swung behind the Nazis in 30s Germany. The problem with the Nazis was not which school they want to, it was their anti-democratic and elitist ideology.

Winston Stanley

29th October 2019 at 2:06 pm

“It may not be much, but I think the Brexit vote in Scotland will damage The SNP in the General Election.”

So, Jim, let us see who gets closest. TP currently has 13 MPs in Scotland. You say that Brexit will damage the SNP vote, I say that it will damage the TP vote. I estimate that TP will get 3 seats in Scotland at the coming GE and that the rest will be taken by the SNP. How many do you estimate that the TP will get? More than 13? Loser donates 50 quid at a local charity shop. How about it, Jim? You up fot it? Put your money where your mouth is?

Send you up that shop. You can get me a packet of mints while you are up there.

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 2:57 pm

Jeezo. Jist in frae ma efertnin walk ‘n ah’m hit wae this.

Free speech is quite literally that.

It is not clear what you are saying.
I made no mention of seats for any Party. I expect the SNP percentage of the total vote to be down. I see the GE in Scotland as as a proxy for Brexit, and independence under the EU, because the Scots see themselves as having no say at Westminster – even when they sent 50 SNP bods down to London.

The wee lassie has agreed to a GE because she realises that she is on the wane.

As for sweeties in Scotland – it has to be a macaroon bar, tablet, and a Tunnock’s caramel wafer.

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 3:51 pm

Pardon me. A caramel log.

Winston Stanley

29th October 2019 at 5:09 pm

Aving kittens now int ya, Jim.

I will take your reply as a concession. Now you get up that shop like you ave bin told.

I dont know what you are on about either, believe me.

Ah, come the glorious day.

Jim Lawrie

29th October 2019 at 8:27 pm

Take what I say however you choose but declaring yourself a winner does not make you so.

Turnout was low for the EU Referendum in Scotland. Particularly in the two areas that voted yes to Independence. This suggests to me that there an unrepresented section of The Scottish Electorate who want out of the Union and The EU. They might see leaving the EU as the first step, and vote accordingly. Many of them would rather not vote than vote Conservative. If The Brexit Party stand candidates for every seat, they have someone to vote for.

Sturgeon, who makes a song and dance of one poll in 50 shading it for independence, will know from the constant polling by her party, that she has a problem. She thinks if she ignores it, it will go away. It won’t. Her cowardice is obvious. The currency question will not go away.

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