Labour’s woke war on women

The spiked team discusses trans ideology, the Brexit negotiations and Germany’s populist revolt.

Do trans-critical feminists have a place in Labour? How is the EU dealing with Brexit? What does the rise of the AfD mean for Germany? Tom Slater, Ella Whelan, Fraser Myers, and special guest Bruno Waterfield, discuss all this and more on this week’s spiked podcast.

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Comments

Lauder Eric

16th February 2020 at 10:54 pm

A male is a male, a female is a female.
Therefore Harriet Wristrich and Julie Bindel are more feminine and much more attractive than Paris Lees and Caroline Cossey.
And who disagree with the above is gay.
Oh, wait…

Asif Qadir

17th February 2020 at 6:29 am

That could only make sense in an echo-chamber. You can’t justify lies and nonsense in the real world.

Lauder Eric

17th February 2020 at 10:36 am

That it means that you find more attractive Harriet Wristrich’s kind of “woman”?
Thirstyness is not good…
I suggest to use a fleshlight.

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16th February 2020 at 10:02 am

Becky Wrong-Daily currently being crucified by Andrew Marr on BBC1 on the ‘trans’ issue.
Marr challenged her signing up to a vehement line against ‘trans’-‘phobia’ that deems several feminist groups as “hate groups”, and — as he pointed out — would see Jess Phillips expelled form Liebore.
[Of course, ALL feminist groups are ‘hate groups’; they’re virulently so; but here they’re talking about the ‘trans’-exclusionary (TERF) position, but which is now a mainstream feminist line — hating male-to-female ‘trans’; not female-to-male ones, you understand!]
Wrong-Daily here nails her screwed-up visage to the whole shebang.
It’s war.
Hee hee

Lauder Eric

17th February 2020 at 1:45 am

I look forward for a boxing match: Patricio Manuel vs a female champion.

Since Patricio Manuel has been born female, “she” is a female, right?

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 11:33 pm

S piked appears to be as obsessed with identity politics as the ‘woke’ themselves. I note that there is almost nothing on this website about Tory corruption, rentier capitalism and BJ’s moral turpitude, as noted by the DM:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8008185/Boris-Johnson-paid-thousands-ten-day-Mustique-break.html
S piked appears to be as Londoncentric and ‘liberal elite’ as any other media platform in this country.

Asif Qadir

16th February 2020 at 6:44 am

I’ve seen two of the Fey Squad describe Tommy Robinson as “reprehensible”, most nauseatingly that silly little creep Mandy Mohel, currently doing the leftist rounds proclaiming how anti-woke she is.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

16th February 2020 at 1:34 pm

‘Fey Squad’ WTF?

Jim Lawrie

15th February 2020 at 4:22 pm

There is no discussion on Spiked of why the left have collapsed so quickly in the face of trans trash. Why are they unable, collectively or individually, to defend themselves against such feeble arguments?

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

16th February 2020 at 3:15 pm

You should be happy. After all, you’ve crushed all opposition, like any democrat would seek to do!

Jerry Owen

17th February 2020 at 8:50 am

ZP
The opposition has crushed itself. Don’t blame anyone else you idiot . You can’t even put your case for the EU , you run away from any debate you feeble creature.

Jim Lawrie

17th February 2020 at 10:42 am

Your inability to think or to answer is your problem, not mine. Questioning what you regurgitate before making it public is the start point for remedying that.

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Judd Hargreaves

15th February 2020 at 12:18 pm

Woke and Transgender activists shout the word fascist at people who disagree with them, but they are the true fascists, They are the ones physically attacking people who disagree them, they are the ones trying to silence women and people who talk about biological and material truths, they are the ones trying to change the laws and language of the land.

They are a hate group, and they have more in common with the far right than actual leftists like me.

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 12:41 pm

‘They are the ones physically attacking people who disagree them’ — Really? And how many such attacks have their been? I suggest a tiny number. There are some nutters out there and violence is never an answer to anything, and certainly not a legitimate means of advancing your cause. However, tg people of all kinds are frequently subject to psychological, verbal and physical intimidation, harassment and even persecution. In a free society, people have the right to live as they please…

Judd Hargreaves

15th February 2020 at 1:35 pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/julie-bindel-attack-feminist-trans-activist-women-rights-talk-edinburgh-university-a8947351.html

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/04/27/trans-identified-male-tara-wolf-charged-assault-hyde-park-attack/

Women or any other people should not be expelled from political parties for stating the truth, and wanting to have private single sex areas. It’s not transphobic to say that a trans woman isn’t a woman, it is acknowledging biology. Violence against trans people is transphobia, having an opinion is not.

That is why they are fascistic, because people should not be punished or ostracized for having different views, silencing working class women’s voices is not progressive and it is not left wing, it’s totalitarian.

This is the last thing i’m going to say now because i am quite frankly bored of this whole charade.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 3:56 pm

JUDD HARGREAVES — Not bored enough to avoid commenting on it though…

‘it is acknowledging biology’ — Really? Do we really know enough about human physiology, the human brain and the aetiology of transsexuality in order to be able to provide a definitive opinion about this issue?

Jerry Owen

15th February 2020 at 4:57 pm

ZP
You made that up!
Fact free as usual.

Asif Qadir

16th February 2020 at 6:49 am

Jerry Oven-Kraut.

I’d like to see ZP being allowed to speak feely without being subjected to…you. Not only is it lame, it’s annoying because ZP is interesting, you’re just a total di ckhead. P off.

Asif Qadir

16th February 2020 at 6:51 am

All this inane, snipey stuff, Jerry Oven-Kraut. At those you perceive to be weaker than you…lol. P off.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 12:43 pm

‘biological and material truths’ lol. Feminists have been fighting ‘against’ biology for over a century now. You clearly think it is wrong to alter your body in any way. If so, why do you take medicines or use contraception? Surely those are not ‘biological’, but artificial. Tg medical intervention has saved many lives over the decades.

Jim Lawrie

15th February 2020 at 3:19 pm

Recent examples of the far right attacking people and trying to suppress discussion?

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 9:39 pm

I have never made that accusation. Anybody from the left, right, centre or none of these is capable of shutting down debate.

Jim Lawrie

18th February 2020 at 10:02 am

Zenobia you are not the only pebble n the beach. Look at the indentation and you will see my post was in response to Judd. I know it’s difficult for you , but do try to keep up.

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Danny Rees

14th February 2020 at 9:09 pm

Spiked are just pushing the woman victim narrative that they claim to decry and oppose so much.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 12:39 pm

Yes, it’s ironic, isn’t it. In their hatred against trannies they have climbed into bed with the misandrist radical feminists!

Jerry Owen

15th February 2020 at 9:09 pm

ZP
No, they haven’t, try reading the article… As you proudly boast you don’t read them

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

15th February 2020 at 9:38 pm

JERRY OWEN — I read it before. My comment still stands.

Lauder Eric

18th February 2020 at 4:33 pm

Apparently, political lesbianism (Julie Bindel, Sheila Jeffreys, Julia Long) is now just good old common sense. At least according Spiked.

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