Ricky Gervais bursts Hollywood’s woke bubble

‘Come up, accept your little award, thank your agent and your god, and f**k off.’

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Comedian Ricky Gervais hosted the Golden Globes for the 5th – and possibly last – time last night. He used his slot to take aim at the wokeness that has made Hollywood more insufferable than ever:

Gervais warned actors against using their award speeches to bang the drum for woke causes:

‘You’re in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg. If you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent, thank your god, and fuck off.’

Gervais’s monologue roasted the celebrity audience over Hollywood’s seemingly endless laundry list of scandals, from Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein (‘I know he’s your friend, but I don’t care’), to race rows and the university-admissions scandal (‘I came here in a limo tonight and the licence plate was made by Felicity Huffman’).

He joked that Hollywood wokeness is curiously absent when it comes to corporate practices from the likes of major producers like Disney, Amazon and Apple (‘a company that runs sweatshops in China’).

It is Hollywood’s hypocrisy that made Gervais’s routine so funny and so necessary. For years, sanctimonious celebrities have looked down on the public, lecturing us about how to live and how to vote, while at the same time their industry has been mired in scandal.

Three cheers to Ricky Gervais for bursting the woke bubble.

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James E Shaw

10th January 2020 at 12:23 pm

Ricky Gervais’s routine would have been a lot more credible if it were not for the fact that he has been guilty of the same thing he accuses celebrities of in the past. Not surprisingly, he is with Russell Brand is this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zueH_eD0CIU

cliff resnick

9th January 2020 at 7:38 pm

Award ceremonies for “luvvies” should neither be seen or heard! I’d ban the lot of them, just a personal hatred, I’m luvviesphobic and I don’t care.

farkennel smith

8th January 2020 at 4:11 am

I completely disagree.What Gervais did was totally unnice.Those poor hard put upon millionaire celebrities go out of their way to entertain us and make sure we have the correct opinions about things that they`ve spend minutes studying.For instance,if it wasn`t for Meryl Streep,I wouldn`t have known that Harvey Weinstein is God.Who among`st us cant sympathise with Michelle Williams when she tells us about how murdering her babies was a great career boost?Surely we can all agree that Patricia Arquette is the worlds foremost authority on international diplomacy and American foreign policy?As far as giant corporations exploiting Chinese workers,I wouldn`t put too much stock in that.The shirt I`m currently wearing has woeful stitching,you can`t trust Chinese children to do anything with a sense of pride in their work.And to top it all off,Gervais seemed to be heartily disrespectful of the huge esteem and credibility that winning gold plated trinkets gives to the winners of said trinkets.All in all,I am as deeply offended by Gervais work as the celebrities are who work for caring and progressive corporate entities.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 2:51 pm

Come again?! The only abuse is from Jon Hen’s foul mouth as is the only 180 degree turns.
Jon Hen persistently trolls and then just ‘projects’ this behaviour on to those he targets!
Self-unawareness is a Left trait and reaches its apotheosis in the Hen buffoon.
Only an extreme Left ideologue can fail to see that ‘identity politics; / ‘PC’ is a major pathology, a huge danger for the future, and is hatred towards ordinary people en mass.
And since when has the Daily Mail been any sort of political platform?! Now standard silly ideological premises are as likely to be behind heavy up-voting of comments as are what the Left would deem the opposite. And hardly anyone reads Breitbart.
Jon Hen as ever ‘projects’ his decidedly non-normal agit-prop on to everyone else.
It hasn’t, doesn’t and won’t wash, but it seems he feels no other line is available to him.

Peter Traynor

7th January 2020 at 8:21 am

Come now, no need to get our knickers in a twist is there? I think we can all agree the funny man was funny. Stevie, Johnie, give each other a big hug and apologise to each other please. Dearie me.

Brandy Cluster

7th January 2020 at 8:04 am

I laughed like there was no tomorrow when I heard this. Actually, I was surprised just how many in the audience also laughed and it reminded me that not everybody agrees with the insufferable bien pensant. Well done, Hollywood audience. You showed us that you can laugh at yourselves.

What people need to understand is that Ricky Gervais knows who he is and that the Left despise people who know who they are because they cannot be brow-beaten and manipulated. They will not blow with every fashionable breeze and believe in everything (ergo, nothing).

The Left has the most to fear from strong characters. Long may these characters reign. Thank you, Ricky Gervais.

K Tojo

6th January 2020 at 10:14 pm

Gervais’ “devastating” comic turn will probably just be water off a duck’s back to the Hollywood elite. Afterwards, Joaquin Phoenix for example, went full strength virtue-signal with his talk on what “we” must all do to avoid the climate emergency.

Real hard-hitting comedy would attack those insufferable eco-activists rather than hypocritical celebs who just want the earn kudos by telling the rest of us what we must do to save the planet.

SNJ Morgan

6th January 2020 at 9:32 pm

What a [non-woke] scream this man is – love that one about the celebrities who had died not being diverse enough!!!

Christopher Tyson

6th January 2020 at 8:53 pm

There was a quote from Gervais in the London Metro today, which was quite touching, he reportedly said ‘It’s a good thing not to be racist, sexist and homophobic, but it’s not a good thing to not be allowed to make jokes about these things, because you can tell a joke about race without being a racist’. It is a serious situation when Gervais feels the need to point this out in the most simplistic of terms, so much of his comedy relies on offensiveness and ambiguity, so much for ‘don’t explain don’t apologise’, Gervais has been driven to risk his career by admitting publicly that he is not a bad person. Importantly Gervais’s statement is not just a rebuke to the woke, PC, identitatians whatever we call them, it is also a useful reminder to those who hide behind a critique of identity politics, to push the idea that racism, sexism and homophobia are fictions and part of a Left wing conspiracy. Like holocaust deniers, these people seek to re-write history for purposes of their own.

Jim Lawrie

6th January 2020 at 5:34 pm

I wonder if he has a contract for next year and they are now face buying him out, or a boycott by the luvvies.

Gareth Edward KING

6th January 2020 at 3:42 pm

What a hoot! Irreverent comedy is part-and-parcel of Britishness. It’s a wonder that the po-faced wokist lot ever took a hold. I certainly won’t be able to look Judi Dench in the eyes the next time she comes round for tea.

Danny Rees

6th January 2020 at 2:53 pm

How about Ricky tries his hand at running a parody account of the Left?

It seems all the rage amongst anti woke comedians these days and sure helps.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 2:16 pm

Next year we want Terry Gilliam though.
Gervais didn’t address the elephant in the room of actresses who took the decision to take advantage of a casting-couch deal with Weinstein and then decades later try to take us all for idiots in pretending this didn’t happen when they extremely belatedly (when they are themselves too old any longer to exploit their youthful looks) to belly-ache about the casting-couch. The #metoo ‘can we have our cake and eat it’ narcissists are the real hypocrites of Tinseltown and should have their noses rubbed in it.
They’re worse than Germaine Greer coming over all femascist prudery on becoming old, having happily gone wide-open beaver on magazine front covers when she was young enough to exploit he own sexual capital.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 2:31 pm

Perhaps Peter Kay … or Chris Morris could take on the #metoo casting-couch hypocrisy if they can’t get Terry Gilliam to repeat his telling-it-like-it-is? I suppose Sasha Baron Cohen’s himself too woke to be up for it.

Jane 70

6th January 2020 at 2:10 pm

“If you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent, thank your god, and fuck off.”

And so say all of us…..

Steve Roberts

6th January 2020 at 12:33 pm

Michael, you may be correct regards the cynicism, however this will reverberate around the globe, people will take what they want from his tirade, the platform was used very well and left little to interpretation, for that we can be thankful and say very well done.
Looking at many of the faces in the audience he was h offending many, excellent,well deserved. It reminded me of many a time when challenging peoples present outlook,the response one gets is “..I’ve never been spoken to like that in my entire life…” To which my pleasurable response is “..well you have now, tough,and there is lots more where that came from and lots more people to tell you the same …” The message is tell it how it is, these regressives make most of it up and still tell it, time to fight back.Well done Gervais.

Michael Lynch

6th January 2020 at 1:31 pm

I take your point. I saw Tom Hanks react like he’d been struck in the face when Gervais began. However, I imagine some one whispered in his ear that Ricky was only being ironic. His face softened quite quickly thereafter and he soon began to laugh! Gervais, whilst a fine comic, is an actor himself and is therefore allowed a lot of license around his own kind. However, if you, or I, however got up and delivered the same we’d soon be shown the door.

Michael Lynch

6th January 2020 at 12:16 pm

Gervais was incredibly funny as per usual. But don’t be completely fooled by his act because he was doing exactly what his employers wanted and that is to engage a wider audience and bring this tedious award ceremony to public prominence. After all, we are all talking about on the Internet and in the media today aren’t we? It’s just clever marketing and way for these dullard Hollywood types to let us know that they are really just a bunch of great guys because they can take a joke too. In a way I’d rather they carry on as type and keep reminding us just what a bunch of slimy hypocrites they really are (the likes of good old Emma Thompson springs to mind). The Golden Globes, like its big brother the Oscars, is just another excuse for a bunch of over inflated egos to slap themselves on the back for getting stupendously rich at our expense. Don’t be surprised either, if he’s back next year despite him saying this is his last one.

Jonnie Henly

6th January 2020 at 11:12 am

All the issues in the world, and all some people get upset about is a few celebrities being “woke” (whatever that means).

Get a grip.

Nice to see Gervais killing it, as usual.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 5:20 pm

All the issues in the world and all some people got upset about was a few heaps of glass on the pavement in some cities across Germany in November 1938. It’s not as though it was contempt for everybody, like ‘Woke’ totalitarianism today: it was only re a minority.

Jonnie Henly

6th January 2020 at 6:38 pm

Ah yes, still a moron I see Steve.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 9:04 pm

The surefire indication of no argument as well as no integrity is abuse.
Nothing else is forthcoming from Left bigots like you.

Jonnie Henly

6th January 2020 at 9:22 pm

Another good example of a lack of argument Steve is Godwin’s law. Reflect on that before you scream at people for being “bigots”.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 9:54 pm

How about for once not being fatuous and willfully ignorant and questioning the utility of sticking with failed ideology and seeing things instead from another perspective? It’s good for you, as well as for everybody else.

Jonnie Henly

6th January 2020 at 10:59 pm

I do that all the time Steve, why do you think I read this site even though I disagree with 99% of what it writes?

Why do you think I read and reply to your comments even though their full of rubbish?

How about for once you drop down off your high horse and stop sneering at everyone who dares to disagree with you?

Jonnie Henly

6th January 2020 at 11:01 pm

I do appreciate though Steve, that such concepts are alien for a lot of right wingers who couldn’t survive 5 minutes outside their echo chambers.

My sympathies.

steve moxon

6th January 2020 at 11:24 pm

Guffaw!
Just how self-unaware and generally clueless can you get?!
And of course, a totalitarian loon couldn’t honestly outline any political continuum, least of all the long moribund notion of left-right.
It’s hilarious to try to invoke an imagined echo chamber of the Right. Like where?
Those of us that the likes of you term “Right Wing” are nothing of the sort.
Former ‘red wall’ country, where I live, if anything would be characterised as decidedly Left economically, and live-and-let-live, hardly ‘reactionary ‘ [sic] socially either. We’re normal people, who can spot bull a mile off. I’m one of these folk; just more read-up.
Being against totalitarian nonsense and sectional maliciousness is nothing to do with being ‘Rightest’.
You haven’t got the vaguest clue.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 12:31 pm

Oh wow. I see you’ve done a total 180 on “if you’re abusive it’s proof you have no argument” moralising.
You can label me what you like, but I’m not a totalitarian, and I never have been. I’ve never advocated for any totalitarian measure, here or elsewhere. Your pathetic ad hominems merely expose the utter cluelessness, and hollowness of your own position.

And as for where Right wing echo chambers exist, well now you’re either a complete shill or ignorant beyond belief.
Have you ever been to the Daily Mail? The Express? Breitbart? Or dozens of other like minded websites. Try posting a dissenting view there. Then you’ll get a proper understanding of what an echo chamber looks like. What’s hilarious is that you think you can deny such places exist.

You’re not a “normal person”. Normal people don’t spend their timing railing against a straw man view of the political ideology they oppose. Normal people don’t tell lies about their political opponents.

Come off your high horse. The only “totalitarian nonsense” you’re railing against here comes from the dark corners of your brain.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 2:52 pm

Come again?! The only abuse is from Jon Hen’s foul mouth as is the only 180 degree turns.
Jon Hen persistently trolls and then just ‘projects’ this behaviour on to those he targets!
Self-unawareness is a Left trait and reaches its apotheosis in the Hen buffoon.
Only an extreme Left ideologue can fail to see that ‘identity politics; / ‘PC’ is a major pathology, a huge danger for the future, and is hatred towards ordinary people en mass.
And since when has the Daily Mail been any sort of political platform?! Now standard silly ideological premises are as likely to be behind heavy up-voting of comments as are what the Left would deem the opposite. And hardly anyone reads Breitbart.
Jon Hen as ever ‘projects’ his decidedly non-normal agit-prop on to everyone else.
It hasn’t, doesn’t and won’t wash, but it seems he feels no other line is available to him.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 7:07 pm

Ah, more generalisations. More lies. More hypocrisy. More abuse. What else would we expect from you Steve? I don’t troll anyone. I don’t target anyone.

Only a right wing ideology with an agenda to push thinks that “PC/ Identity politics” are actually a totalitarian threat. Such buzzwords have become virtually mandatory in right wing echo chambers, a perfect bogeyman for them to sweeten their otherwise unpopular politics. Of course, almost all those who rail against “PC” are guilty of some of the worst examples of ahistorical nonsense.

The people that push this nonsense are either dishonest shills or useful idiots. Right wing echo chambers give a nice mix of both.

Though it takes a truly insane person to deny the Daily Mail’s political leanings.

Of course no-one outside of closed minded right wingers reads Breitbart!

You’re attempts to claim some sort of non political centre ground fall flat when your agenda is clear for all too see. You can’t hide it, and you can’t explain it away. The only option you have left is to double down on it. And of course, any criticism that comes your way is desperately labelled as “trolling”, but such needling will fail as well.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 7:23 pm

PURE, FULL-ON ‘PROJECTION’, as ever.
In full-on Left ‘everyone’s a bigot’ style.
What a boring fool is Jon Hen.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left major backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy.
This is not going away, and it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 9:39 pm

You’re still failing Steve.
Rabid abuse masquerading as actual arguments won’t work.

‘Identity politics’ is a word that gets thrown around like a frisbee. It gets applied to all sorts of different scenarios, and movements. Hardly anyone who uses it can properly define it, much less explain it’s history in detail. And that goes especially for them people who use it as a stick to beat against whatever they don’t like in society right now ie right wingers. You can attach your own version of what it means, your own made up history if you like, it will still be the same ahistorical BS that so many other righties spew out on a daily basis.
I know you people need a good bogeyman to blame for the way society has shifted in the last 50 years, but no matter how much mud you throw at ‘identity politics/PC/SJWs/whatever’ it still won’t stick. If you want to salvage what you can of traditional conservatism, its time to pull your heads out, drop the conspiracy and engage properly with the real world, instead of condemning it.

If you insist on peddling your discredited theory, then you can no longer simply be considered ignorant. You’ve passed well beyond that to something much worse.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 9:46 pm

Boring continued ‘projection’ by Jon Hen.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left major backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy.
This is not going away, and it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 10:06 pm

And now as Steve gets really desperate he brings up another of his supposed trump cards: the “boring” one. Though obviously this isn’t boring enough to stop Steve replying. Yet.

It probably won’t be long before he copy and pastes his favourite paragraph on here for the thousandth time. You’d think he would’ve come up with something different to say after all this time, but that is evidently asking too much of him.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 10:18 pm

Yawningly fool ‘projection’ by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left major backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy.
This is not going away, and it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 10:30 pm

Damn those left apologists and their refusal to swallow your agenda!

I’m guessing your repetitive copy/pasting is evidence you’re unwilling to continue arguing.

Perhaps next time you shouldn’t go round comparing modern day Hollywood to late 1930s Germany unless you can actually back it up.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 10:42 pm

Oh of course, the daft yawn combination of misrepresentation and feigning inability to see obvious connection by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

7th January 2020 at 11:09 pm

It would be easier to see the “obvious connection” if it were there, and not merely a made up tool used to push your argument.

More baseless scaremongering Steve. Don’t worry, if you copy and paste enough times, maybe eventually someone will believe you! Eventually. You might have to keep this up for a while though.

steve moxon

7th January 2020 at 11:14 pm

Oh of course, the daft yawn combination of feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 9:45 am

No Steve, you’ll have to say it a few more times.

You’re still getting no traction.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 10:31 am

Always ready to oblige.
The daft yawn combination of feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 1:09 pm

You’d think after all this time Steve would actually have some evidence of my totalitarianism. But no, he just keeps up with the copy/pasting. A perfectly predictable little drone.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 4:26 pm

Jon Hen is that fool among fools: an apologist for totalitarianism.
The daft yawn combination of feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 6:24 pm

When Steve?

When have I been apologising for totalitarianism? You’ve still got nothing.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 7:03 pm

On cue.
Jon Hen is that fool among fools: an apologist for totalitarianism.
The daft yawn combination of feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation by Jon Hen, the heroically self-unaware Left apologist.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
What is true always bears repeating. Strange that: not.
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Anyone who still fails to read up on this despite its being repeatedly raised is a true bigot and imbecile, and has no real interest in or concern for our times

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 7:44 pm

Copy paste Steve, the perfect little shill for the 2020s.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 7:56 pm

Jon Hen is that fool among fools: an apologist for totalitarianism.
Feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation, Jon Hen is one of those heroically self-unaware ‘useful idiots’ if not slaves themselves to ideology.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Those like Jon Hen who refuse to address what is staring us all in the face are either cowards, zeros or bigots, with no interest in or concern for people and our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 8:12 pm

Again, copy past Steve has no evidence. The “well documented history” extends no further than the same rants pasted from your website, over and over.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 8:48 pm

Come again|?! The history is VERY WELL DOCUMENTED, NOT LEAST IN THE MARXIST INTELLECTUALS’ OWN ACCOUNTS! It’s not my documentation!
Jon Hen is that fool among fools: an apologist for totalitarianism.
Feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation, Jon Hen is one of those heroically self-unaware ‘useful idiots’ if not slaves themselves to ideology.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Those like Jon Hen who refuse to address what is staring us all in the face are either cowards, zeros or bigots, with no interest in or concern for people and our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 8:52 pm

Oh yes, very well documented.
So we’ll documented that Steve has some block caps rants to prove it.

Try harder next time Steve.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 9:31 pm

To state again (and as long as it takes until the obscenity implodes) the history of ‘identity politics’ — it’s origin, development, intertwining with ‘post-modernism’, co-options, and various manifestation — is VERY WELL DOCUMENTED, NOT LEAST IN THE MARXIST INTELLECTUALS’ OWN ACCOUNTS! It’s not my documentation!
Jon Hen is that fool among fools: an apologist for totalitarianism.
Feigning inability to see obvious connection and the usual misrepresentation, Jon Hen is one of those heroically self-unaware ‘useful idiots’ if not slaves themselves to ideology.
Totalitarianism invariably is comparable, and hating everyone is an amazing political feat that actually trumps hating a minority!
‘Identity politics’ has a well-documented history: in origin, development and manifestation it is purely a Left virulent backlash against the masses to deal with cognitive dissonance re the failure of the Left’s political philosophy. It has proved to be on an exponential trajectory and unless it is stopped is going to lead to where all such insanity leads.
This is not going away, and, assuming it does implode, it is going to boomerang back on the Left in a catastrophic way. Hence the lengths Left apologists such as Jon Hen go to deny political reality, trying to dismiss the Left’s own history as ‘conspiracy theory’, when ‘identity politics’ is the very antithesis to a conspiracy: it is lowest common denominator base human behaviour and cognition.
Those like Jon Hen who refuse to address what is staring us all in the face are either cowards, zeros or bigots, with no interest in or concern for people and our times.

Jonnie Henly

8th January 2020 at 10:20 pm

Steve is so desperate to play the victim that he draws direct parallels between actors giving acceptance speeches and…. 1930s Germany.

No matter how much shrill ranting you do, how many times you copy/paste, you’re agenda still won’t wash.

steve moxon

8th January 2020 at 10:31 pm

Guffaw! It’s your standard Leftard denials that won’t wash.
THE ORIGIN OF ‘IDENTITY POLITICS’ & ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’: Not Consideration for Minorities but Hatred Towards the Mass of Ordinary People; Specifically ‘the Workers’ — Tracing the Roots of Why and How it Arose and Developed Reveals the Greatest Political Fraud in History.
SUMMARY: ‘Identity politics’ (often or even usually dubbed ‘political correctness’) is the result of a political-Left major backlash against the mass of ordinary people (in Europe and ‘the West’), beginning in the 1920s/30s, in the wake of the persistent failure of Marxist theory to be realised in European ‘revolution’ or any real change through democracy. In shifting the blame away from Marxist theory and its adherents, and on to those the theory had prescribed and predicted would have been the beneficiaries — the workers — if only they had responded accordingly; then the cognitive-dissonance within the political-left mindset caused by this crisis to an extent was salved. [It is NOT at all the same as what the Left mistakenly term ‘the politics of identity’ to tag the new movements against the elite, on the false assumption that they are essentially nationalistic and ‘white backlash’. Trump and Brexit triumphed because the general populace have come to realise that the government-media-education uber-class has an unwarranted profound contempt for and visceral hatred towards them; and, therefore hardly is liable to act in their interests.]
The intellectual rationalisation was first by invoking Freud’s now comprehensively discredited notion of ‘repression’ to attempt to explain a supposed impact on ‘the workers’ of ‘capitalism’ acting within the context of the family. With most workers (the group considered the principal ‘agents of social change’ in a ‘revolution’) being male, then the theoreticians had in mind the male as ‘head’ of the family. It was a simple extension in political-Left imagination for ‘the worker’ to change from being the putative conduit of the impact of ‘capitalism’ to its embodiment, leaving women to be deemed a replacement supposed ‘oppressed’ and ‘disadvantaged’ ‘group’.
This implausible and unfalsifiable non-scientific nonsense mainly festered within academia until the co-option after 1968 by the political-Left of a movement which appeared to be akin to the revolutionary activity predicted by Marxism: the US ‘civil rights’ movement. This added to the ‘new oppressed’ the category ‘non-white’, which like that of women could be envisaged as an inversion of a retrospective stereotype of ‘the worker’. In the wake of the similarly seeming revolutionary Stonewall riots of 1969, the ‘gay rights’ lobby was also co-opted to further add to the abstract demonised aspects of ‘the worker’, thereafter retrospectively stereotyped as male plus ‘white’ plus heterosexual.
The strands of the ‘new oppressed’ combined in a new (neo-Marxist) conceptualisation to account for these political shifts after the fact, which came to be termed ‘identity politics’ (or more pejoratively but accurately, ‘cultural Marxism’, and latterly dubbed ‘modernising’ [sic] in political parties). The deemed ‘groups’ replacing ‘the workers’ – subsequently expanded to embrace the disabled, the elderly, trans-sexuals and the obese – are abstractions rather than groups per se, and in any case far too heterogeneous to be in reality ‘oppressed’ or ‘disadvantaged’; providing a window on the sophistry and origin of this politics as other than it purports.
This absurd situation arose through the political-Left’s forcing of specific conflicts to be considered as emblematic of Marxist struggle, rendering them as generalisable, with their participants abstractions. US Afro-Americans became generic ‘ethnic minorities’, and ‘gays’ became ‘homosexuals’. The history of feminism — not just of the ‘third wave’ — is of upper-class or upper-middle-class women demanding to somehow to be the same as their very high-status husbands and males within their rarefied social milieu; which even if it could make any sense given profound sex difference, hardly was a basis of anything comparable for the great majority of either women or men. The upshot is that ‘identity politics’ is a ‘gravy train’ for the already privileged. Worse, it is an instrument of oppression against the very ‘group’ perennially disadvantaged and the victim of prejudice, which formerly had been identified as worthy of the liberation Marxism promised: the vast majority of (necessarily lower-status) men.
The pretence to egalitarianism is perfect cover for what ‘identity politics’ actually is: the very perennial and ubiquitous elitist-separatism the political-Left ethos attacks and denies; rendered a quasi-religion, being an ideology in the wake of the Christian notion of ‘the promised land’ in the utopia/dystopia of equality-of-outcome.

John Kemp

6th January 2020 at 5:29 pm

Jonnie, I believe it is another of those illiteracy moments. The first to coin the phrase/word was probably as thick as Greta and their lexicon did not extend to ‘aware’.

james bradley

6th January 2020 at 11:08 am

All those woke thesps either sucking lemons or forcing rictus grins. Gervais is an incredibly brave comic genius. Also delighted for another national treasure, Sir Sam Mendes and his film 1917.

John Kemp

6th January 2020 at 5:30 pm

…those whose faces could still move that is.

Jerry Owen

6th January 2020 at 11:03 am

Priceless.. tears down my cheeks, never was sure about him but am now !

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