Finally, a rebellion against Extinction Rebellion

Commuters of London, rise up against the eco-elitists!

Brendan O'Neill

Brendan O'Neill

Topics Politics UK

The people are rising up against the elites. No, I don’t mean Extinction Rebellion. I mean the Rebellion against Extinction Rebellion. Today’s clashes on the Tube between the commuting working classes and the time-rich, bourgeois fearmongers of the XR cult is a wonderful illustration of the elitist nature of eco-politics and of rising public fury with the eco-agenda.

For more than a week now the XR elitists have been disrupting everyday life. They’ve stopped flights from taking off, preventing people from going on well-earned holidays or visiting loved ones abroad. They’ve clogged up roads in city centres, irritating cab drivers and people on buses. And they’ve stormed Smithfield meat market and Billingsgate fish market – smug middle-class vegans lecturing hard-working traders about the correct way to think and live.

But today their sneering campaigning went too far. Today they disrupted the Tube. Yes, this mass, largely electric public-transport system used by millions of people is the latest target of these arrogant disrupters of the masses’ lives. And people got pissed off. Really pissed off.

Across the Tube system commuters confronted the XR irritants. In one videoed scene a commuter can be heard asking about people who have hospital appointments to keep. What about them? ‘The point is…’, replies a plummy XR protester, no doubt about to launch into a snooty green lecture for the little people, but she gets cut off by other angry commuters. One points out that the train she has glued herself to is electric. Why target this transport system? ‘Are you guys really THAT fucking stupid?’, he asks. ‘That’s why you ain’t got jobs…’

On the Tube train I was on the driver announced a delay ‘due to protests’. Cue an enormous groan from the teeming train-riders. In Canning Town an angry crowd of working people even dragged XR protesters off the top of a Tube train. The sight of one of the protesters kicking at the commuters to prevent them from reaching him really showed how nasty and contemptuous of the public these green extremists have become. This is the reactionary middle classes insulting and assaulting ordinary people – horrible.

Some leftists and greens have been shocked by today’s rebellion against Extinction Rebellion. They’re saying XR should change tactics. But the problem here isn’t tactics – no, this ugly, elitist inconveniencing of ordinary people represents the actual content of XR’s outlook. It captures the fundamentals of this movement, which is a backward-looking, anti-progress, anti-people outfit. Today’s XR sneering at working people wasn’t a mistaken tactic – it was the essence of environmentalism.

The idea that XR must now change tack to try to win over more working people is ridiculous. People reject this elitist movement. They reject its alarmism, its snobbery, its anti-humanism, and its demands for crippling austerity. We saw that today. Commuters’ message was ‘Fuck Extinction Rebellion’. And that’s a positive, progressive, forward-looking political demand we can organise around.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show. Subscribe to the podcast here. And find Brendan on Instagram: @burntoakboy

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Shaggy Cotton

24th October 2019 at 2:14 pm

At first, I thought this article was brilliant satire…

Politicising the protests and their role of bringing light to the self destruction of humanity is incredibly short sighted. Yes, it’s a shame they all still look like extras in the Wombles… but someone’s got to do it. And it’s working. Fuck the people trying to get to work. Got sick relatives? Find another way to the hospital that will be inundated in the not too distant future if we, and the spineless “leaders” of the world, still see the protests as a class issue. You also insult those working classes across the country that agree with the protests.

Ebberman Jones

27th October 2019 at 5:01 am

“but someone’s got to do it.” – No, not true. You are suffering from the same delusion. All your “knowledge”, and mine and everybody else’s, comes from suspect sources. You have unquestioningly swallowed it all.

Gerry Delasel

22nd October 2019 at 11:57 am

Seeing those commuters pull the XR protesters off that train was genuinely heartwarming, although I must confess to a little schadenfreude at seeing London so inconvenienced. When I think of ‘the working class’ I think of people outside the smug, well-funded, metro-friendly south-east. It’s kinda nice to see London self destruct, sometimes.

Jonnie Henly

21st October 2019 at 10:51 pm

Commuting working classes?

Brendan gets more ridiculous by the day. You do know the sort of people that commute into London from the Home Counties right? Nothing working class about them.

Stop lying.

PP Garb

22nd October 2019 at 9:12 pm

Stats suggest there are many working class in London. Of 10 bands of weekly income, there are two peaks in the curve (this is the same as everywhere else in the UK). The majority sit in the lower bands: 3 & 4. (Band 6 = average UK wage). Where London differs greatly from the rest of the country is the peak in band 10 which is much-much higher than everywhere else except the South East. The peak in band 10 in London skews averages to create an impression that everyone in London earns a ‘good’ wage. Source: (I’m not affiliated)

Lord Anubis

23rd October 2019 at 2:43 pm

Yep, and the spending power of those, relatively small number of, band tens. allows them to screw everything up for everybody else by pushing the price of everything sky-high. This is why no sane Northerner wants HS2. All HS2 will achieve is to make it possible for a few tens of thousands of highly paid London “Band Tens” to screw up the lives of millions of people in the north.

Questioning Duquesne

20th October 2019 at 3:37 am

Questions to every XR activist attending a demonstration:
1. How far do you drive each year?
2. By what form of transport did you travel to this event?
3. Does your home contain a cooker? If so, what energy does it use?
4. Does your home contain a space heater? If so, what energy does it use?
5. Does your home contain a water heater? If so, what energy does it use?
6. How many times a week do you obtain cooked food outside your home?
7. What form of energy is used to cook that food?
8. What proportion of those services are you willing to forego to support the principles for which you are demonstrating?
We’d find the answers … interesting?

Dave Spart

19th October 2019 at 8:00 am

XR aim to create disruption because that will be the effect of ecological collapse (I tend to agree)( and millions may die. They aim to give a lesson in the effects of disruption. However when they create disruption they expect to be dealt with by a well-trained, disciplined police force that treats them respectfully and carefully. At Canning Town XR met the true result of disruption and were opposed by an angry mob. XR learnt the results of arrogantly disrupting the lives of stressed, hard-working people (and trying to film it at the same time). They should have expected this.

Aunty Podes

19th October 2019 at 2:58 am

Perhaps the worst thing about the XR mob is that they see themselves as being “non-violent”. They are completely wrong – physically preventing people from going about their daily business is the illegitimate exercise of force. When the police fail to prevent this happening, the public has only one recourse other than submission – to retaliate with counter force.

In essence, these hysterical arrogant XR’s are, by virtue of their confrontational challenge to the legitimate right of the freedom of the individual, initiating civil war.

Nick Fitton

19th October 2019 at 7:39 am

What else should they do? Nobody is listening to logic and doing enough as a whole country.
The green party has been around for decades, climate change is real and we need to do more, why are you not doing more and how can you be persuaded to do more?

PP Garb

22nd October 2019 at 9:23 pm

How about Nick, you propose some sensible things people can do. It seems all we get is hysterical ‘we’re all doooomed’ and judging. What about a list of 10 (simple) things folks can do that will guarantee to save the planet by 2025. The list should include things you yourself will buy into 100% too – all XR’s should be doing them already by rights. The list can’t include switching off life support machines, baby incubators, x-ray or MRI machines, hospitals at all, or heating for the elderly to name a miniscule few examples. So knock yourself out and post the list here. What, not that easy to come up with? Exactly. That’s the bit XR don’t appear to ‘get’. They’re just emotional elites who think everyone else should stop using *their* electricity and planes.

bf bf

18th October 2019 at 7:30 pm

X.R (eXtremely Retarded)

Willie Penwright

18th October 2019 at 7:01 pm

We should all be grateful to that member of the Look-at-Me, Look-at-Me, Morally Superior Association who climbed Big Ben and saved the lives of 10 million people. Sorry 20 million.

terry needham

18th October 2019 at 6:39 pm

To Major Jinx
They can be both: The spoilt offspring of the Liberal Elite.

Major Jinx

18th October 2019 at 3:28 pm

So are They Liberal Elites or Unemployed Hippie Crustys? Cant be both……shrodingers immigrant all over again. Plus being told by some posh rich boys that it’s all posh rich people protesting is well… much laughs.

Dave Spart

18th October 2019 at 2:21 pm

The ‘remain’ campaign has become one of protecting the privileges of the managerial class (high material consumption, low working class wages, state subsidised jobs for themselves). They are Macronistas. XR is like the environmental wing of this with its insistence that environmental degradation is all somebody else’s fault. They want to maintain their own consumption AND get a benign environment. Not possible in my opinion.

harry briggs

18th October 2019 at 12:00 pm

Roger Hallam believes that there will be mass starvation and a breakdown of civil order within 10 years due to climate change, when climate or environmental scientists who’s views or work don’t agree with these people they find themselves excommunicated and forced out from the scientific community, where do we ordinary people go to discover the truth when science seems to have failed to follow it’s own scientific methodology?.

Andrew Leonard

18th October 2019 at 12:30 pm

Interesting question. Perhaps there is no fixed scientific methodology, but rather an adaptation to context, within 3 broad categories:

1. Scientist works alone, out of own curiosity
2. Scientist works for a commercial firm
3. Scientist works for government or NGO

In case 1, scientist is interested in the truth. In cases 2 & 3, scientist may be otherwise interested in truth, but politics and profits can colour that interest. We tend to trust case 2 less than 1 or 3. Case 1 is mostly history, so in effect we trust case 3 a lot, compared to case 2 – not so much. Why? Are profits more corrupting than politics? Regardless, neither 2 or 3 is ideal.

Steve James

18th October 2019 at 11:19 am

Middle class meets the working class for the first time. I think it went better than expected.

Ken Finn

18th October 2019 at 1:27 pm

I am a pensioner and an XR activist… I grew up in a rented house without a proper bath and an outside privy.. my mum cleaned and took in washing for others, my dad was a postman and I left school at 14. I’m a retired carpenter and I draw a state pension. I have never drawn any other state benefits. But none of that defines me as a person. To be honest the truth is the truth what ever the class of person who delivers it. We are witnessing the beginnings of a climate breakdown and an unprecedented loss of biodiversity which is beyond dispute. To portray this as some kind of class war is just bollocks and a convenient diversion for those who are happy to profit while they can just or click bait. Of course I feel for those trapped in a system that compels them to give up most of their life to put a roof over their heads and food on the table… I’ve lived it. What we are warning of is something that will make that sytem look comfy in comparison if we don’t act now.

Steve James

18th October 2019 at 2:04 pm

These activists have been spreading their nonsense for decades, and you are old enough to know better than to get sucked in by it.

Alex Cameron

18th October 2019 at 5:55 pm

Ken, just because you are working class doesn’t mean you can’t have an obnoxious, middle class political outlook.

bf bf

18th October 2019 at 7:08 pm

Deluded, indoctrinated, low (real) information “useful idiot”

Klaun Welt

20th October 2019 at 9:24 pm


Andrew Leonard

18th October 2019 at 1:00 am

I re-watched Greta Thunberg’s emotional speech at the United Nations.
This girl’s hate-filled rage and resentment at the world seems almost overwhelming.
So while not quite as thunderous and provocative in comparison, it did remind me of an Austrian born water painter turned soldier, who ended up doing a lot of public speaking in the 20 years leading up to the end of WW2.
Look, I think it’s great that Extinction Rebellion has a Youth wing, of which Greta is its most prominent member – I just hope that not too much pressure is being placed on her at this stage of her life, by the leaders of the movement.

By the way, can someone tell me what is XR’s position on the Fourth Reich European Union?
Do they suppose their goals would be more easily attained with the UK in, or out?
Worth considering with XR so prominent and Oct 31 looming.

Tom Carver

18th October 2019 at 12:30 am

The XR protesters we have seen in London have all been entitled, middle class, northern Europeans – exactly the same people who regularly march against Brexit; and both XR and Remain have expressed their contempt for the kind of people who just want to travel, buy things and leave the EU.
It probably surprised those XR protesters in East London to discover that, for most of us, getting to work on time is actually more important than signalling our ecological virtues.

jessica christon

18th October 2019 at 12:04 am

I saw it on YouTube and tbh it wasn’t that bad and there were a few disagreements going on in the crowd too. There was a funny moment when a commuter got onto the roof of the tube train and the protester tried to get away but he was caught, and ‘helped’ down by the commuter. Escalations could be much worse, but be warned: if that happens, the authorities will go hard after the commuters – not Tarquin.

abba babba

17th October 2019 at 11:21 pm

Your thoughts are so beige and your so tory led in your shite words.
For all our children and all their futures we need to speak up and stand up ! we know you dont get it or care but I do !
So unless you have something positive to say you prick shut up spreading hate and nastiness.
Our forefathers fought for us to have the freedom you enjoy and your cussing people who have the spirit and gumtion to do something to say fuking listen! unlike the gov that murders and bombs innocent people. Get a grip on reality you fookin fools ?

Anna Bolick

18th October 2019 at 9:11 am

What about our foremothers? Did you forget about them?

Steve James

18th October 2019 at 11:16 am

XR just got a dose of reality.

H McLean

17th October 2019 at 11:14 pm

I’m looking forward to almost daily footage of the public beating the bloody tar out of these deluded cultists. Let’s be honest, they absolutely deserve it.

masonfreeparty luddite

17th October 2019 at 10:02 pm

Long live the Luddites..i will continue to drive my 30 year old pinto transit and not waste resources on electric cars ..i will continue to heat my home with a log burner instead of electricity that in part comes from dangerous nuclear power..and if the powers that be try and control our lives with smart technology we luddites will rise up with our sledge hammers and angle grinders and put an end to it…

antoni orgill

17th October 2019 at 8:06 pm

Why do ‘we’ need to ‘organise around’ the reaction against Extinction Rebellion? The spontaneous reaction seemed to work without any need for further organisation. Maybe the focus of XR will now shift. Maybe they’ll let some clues sink in about their real chance of ‘changing the world’. Who knows what these nut-jobs will do next _ which is why trying to somehow reconstitute the working class around this issue sounds hollow. There’s simply no need for it in response to XR _ yet …

James Knight

17th October 2019 at 7:13 pm

Targeting public transport may seem truly moronic. But it fits with their ideology.

Winston Stanley

17th October 2019 at 6:24 pm

It was interesting to hear the pensioner explain that he disrupted the train b/c “God told him to do it.” Is that a bit like the Inquisition? /s

Linda Payne

17th October 2019 at 5:29 pm

On the whole people are remarkably patient even if they don’t support the ’cause’ yet I’m glad they fought back because we have had enough of this arrogant lying elitist movement

A Game

18th October 2019 at 6:56 am

I think XR have mistaken that patience, tolerance for passivity, possibly agreement. They are out of touch as people, so easy mistake to have made.
In their mischievous glee, they detoured out of the CBD… new tactic – don’t stray out of the CBD.

The horrible image of those mutts on top of that train… going to grandstand, hold court… their entitlement to people’s lives… repulsive. Go the proles.

Neil McCaughan

17th October 2019 at 5:13 pm

Police have arrested the immaculately privileged, middle class George Monbiot for defying the ban on ER protests.

Monbiot grew up in Henley-on-Thames in South Oxfordshire, England, in a house next to Peppard Common. His father Sir Raymond Geoffrey Monbiot, CBE is a businessman who headed the Conservative Party’s trade and industry forum, while his mother, Rosalie—the elder daughter of Conservative MP Roger Gresham Cooke—was a Conservative councillor who led South Oxfordshire District Council for a decade. His uncle, Canon Hereward Cooke, was the Liberal Democrat deputy leader of Norwich City Council between 2002 and 2006.

Monbiot was educated at a preparatory boarding school between 1971 and 1976, and Stowe. He went on Brasenose College, Oxford.

No queuing at a station to catch a train to go to work for our George.

Amma Zombi

17th October 2019 at 3:40 pm

XR are misanthropic, anti progress, anti-working class. They are also anti-capitalist, anti-democracy, anti-freedom of speech, woke elite middle class eco extremists doing the bidding of the chattering class Remoaner elite. It’s good to see some working class courage pushing back.

Jim Lawrie

17th October 2019 at 2:58 pm

I wonder how the XR egotists travelled to the tube stations.

Jerry Owen

17th October 2019 at 2:53 pm

I find the ER logo rather disturbing , it’s likeness to a Swastika is obvious and I also suspect it’s deliberate. Hallum the leader of ER has stated that they intend to overthrow the system and that ‘people may lose their lives ‘.. sound familiar ?
Despite the fact that it’s so easy to take the piss out of ER and we must continue to do so, we mustn’t forget just how nasty the really are .
Hopefully the tube station incident is the beginnings of a fightback.
‘Who’s tubes … our tubes’ !

Andrew Leonard

17th October 2019 at 3:34 pm

The philosopher Martin Heidegger espoused deep ecology in his writings.
He was of course, a Nazi.

Extinction Rebellion appear to be influenced by Heidegger, as are the people behind Greta.

It’s time for people to wake up and smell the roses.

A Game

18th October 2019 at 7:38 am

They aren’t reading the room. Brexit has created a mass of discontent that many people would happily direct at anyone deciding to put themselves in their face. (Canning Town showed it nicely.)
Hallam Manson can talk it up. Just like his namesake did. (Strange how after being freaked out about Once upon a time in Hollywood, which should put Manson right in their Overton Window about now… are completely overlooking the Charlie Manson running XR.) He’s obviously thinking about people as sitting ducks.
And when is someone going to accidentally trip and fall onto one of these superglued bell ends so their hand gets ripped off the surface its stuck to? Creativity, peeps, creativity.

Jerry Owen

17th October 2019 at 2:40 pm

I only manged to catch the video several times before I started work this morning!
I hope that the chap who dragged the ER prat off the roof presses charges for assault for being kicked in the head from what I could see, that could have caused a very nasty injury had it connected fully .. as was indeed intended by the ‘peaceful ER protestor’.
Clearly ER aren’t in favour of electric vehicles by stopping a tube train, or perhaps these twats imagine they are coal driven who knows what lurks in the inner depths of their grey mush.. not much it appears.
Paul Joseph Watson does a great vid on ER on YouTube, ( please watch it ) a young student type girl interviewed on tv ( why oh why) asked why is it okay to stop people crossing Westminster bridge to get to hospital answers .. ‘ we are happy to have the conversation with them, and if we think it’s okay we may let them through ..possibly’.
This girl sums up the arrogant patronising stupidity of these morons perfectly.
I suspect that at this rate of stupidity ER will become extinct long before mother earth does, by more than eleven years even.

A Game

18th October 2019 at 7:32 am

Yeah… its addictive viewing, isn’t it? A cola company or something should get in on the action, get a logo in there… Poetry in motion.

The bespectacled librarian woman was interviewed… apparently targeting the train system was to highlight the flaws in its system… if an “event” took place… so it would seem they are doing the job of showing that if an idiot gets on top of a train… the train doesn’t do the right thing and keep going.

They are going hard down the path of “people didn’t know what they voted for” tactic.
No one knows the science, its so haaaaaard, didn’t you know? Its so complex, this is why people are erroneously seeing them as the enemy. They are too stupid, so so thick, the message must be forced on everyone.

The level of f**king offensive this stoops to…
We have been the idiots recycling, composting, staying at home, minimising expensive electricity use by buying expensive, low wattage lightbulbs (isn’t it a killer if they break or something? That’s $8 down the drain, for nothing.) and investing in insulation etc, instead of jetting about and living high on the hog of the decadence wealth in the west can buy.

People have to stick to alternative news sites, or contrarian news sites, videos, posts…

Julia Hartley-Brewer has a very nice chat with … Matt Ridley (?). They do a smooth “go around” of the entire issue… CAUTION: Its sane and dispassionate and informative. (Most of what he is saying, everyone who hates XR already know… just the luvvies who are famous are yet to catch up.)

In2 Minds

17th October 2019 at 2:26 pm

The police have made an arrest, of the anti-protest protester!

fret slider

17th October 2019 at 2:35 pm

That is what is known as the [Cressida] ‘Dick’ effect.

It’s very common in its purpose….

Graham Hill

17th October 2019 at 11:34 pm

Well put: Most apposite and accurate.

fret slider

17th October 2019 at 2:23 pm

“Guido also spots super posh climate nutter Robin Boardman-Pattinson lurking around, although he let his inferiors do the dirty work and stop the tube. For a ‘peaceful movement’, it’s interesting to see Extinction Rebellion resorting to kicking commuters in the head – let’s see if this new tactic wins the public over…”

Shame Boardman-Pattinson. Still Roger Hallam did say: “some might die in the process”

fret slider

17th October 2019 at 2:25 pm

Shame Boardman-Pattinson escaped…

A Game

18th October 2019 at 7:19 am

F Slider:
Might have to get the deck of cards US marines did when they first hit Iraq, with all the XR big hitters on them. I’d hate for a little person to cop it… you know… those fey, warm folk singing songs and busting some nice, Age of Aquarius moves. The ones who have a right, apparently, to camp out in a CBD without paying rent, take over other people’s lease… without paying rent.

Jane 70

17th October 2019 at 2:03 pm

steve moxon

17th October 2019 at 1:44 pm

” ‘Are you guys really THAT ******* stupid?’, he asks. ‘That’s why you ain’t got jobs…’ “”
Evidently they really ARE that stupid.
What an own goal to attack an electric mass transit system of a high-density housing area.
Next move by Extinct Rabble: knocking cyclists off their metal (high carbon footprint) machines?
— with government endorseent, pointing out the extra health benefits of walking over any sort of machine-aided locomotion.

Neil John

19th October 2019 at 12:26 pm

High carbon foot print bicycles, especially as most are made in the far east or the USA and shipped here, the CARBON fibre ones especially.

Jane 70

17th October 2019 at 1:35 pm

XR are well on the way to achieving a spectacular own goal.

If these sticky tube protests continue on crowded commuter platforms, there might well be a fatal accident in the near future.

Ed Turnbull

17th October 2019 at 1:00 pm

If you’ve not seen the videos of the XR clowns being pulled off the train go watch them now, they’re a joy to behold. A classic British working class ‘eff off’ to the middle classes who presume themselves the masters of the plebs.

I’m reminded of the quote from Orwell: “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf”. I think we can extend that from sleeping soundly to riding on the Tube, and I guess Tarquin and Rupert forgot about the rough men… Priceless.

Andrew Best

17th October 2019 at 12:22 pm

More of the same please working class brethren
Bunch of middle class gits pontificating about the planet, great but I have rent to pay so need to get to work
No one I know has the time or money to Swan about like this schumks

Perverted Lesbian

17th October 2019 at 11:52 am

For those not aware, take a moment to bask in this absolute gem of gloriousness
****Olivia Coleman is the ambassador for British Airways First Class travel********
ha! beat that satirist!!
Honestly, how funny is that, Olivia Coleman, Benedict Cabbagepatch Stephen Fry lining up to take selfies with their XR badges pinned to their lapels.
It wasn’t that long ago I remember Brexiteers being accused of ‘Little England’ syndrome, which was of course, incorrect, most of us are hoping for a little bit of dynamism post Brexit, but the irony is, all these well to do want to stop the oiks from taking that two week holiday to Benidorm once a year, (presumably they get to keep their jet-set lifestyle, whilst the factory worker is forced to holiday in Bognor) so are they not inadvertently encouraging a little England narrow outlook attitude on Britons? The moral of the story, as always with these assholes, is, if ‘you choose’ to holiday in Bognor it is because you are a narrow-minded bigoted xenophobe that will hopefully die soon, but, if we ‘force’ you to holiday in Bognor, that is good cos we decided for you, and also, you are a bigoted p.o.s that will hopefully die soon.
If I had more money I would purchase 100’s flights and give them away to the oiks.

Neil John

19th October 2019 at 12:29 pm

Yes the entertainment types love self aggrandising virtue signalling, I wonder how Southampton Universities UEB, Senate and Council feel about it and their choice of Chancellor.

Andrew Leonard

17th October 2019 at 11:47 am

It is 10 years since Climategate.
This scandal revealed monumental scientific corruption, at the highest levels of climate science.
Most of the world chose to turn a blind eye.

Extinction Rebellion have now moved into Phase 2: Closing down industry.
You will discover that well organised, well funded zealots, combined with a highly sympathetic governing class, educational establishment, and media, do not need to look like Vikings to be scary.

You will also discover that the lost opportunity of Climategate leaves us all without a leg to stand on.

fret slider

17th October 2019 at 2:29 pm

“10 years since Climategate.”

Indeed it is, but nothing has changed, it’s doubled down if anything:

The Excommunication of Susan Crockford
Like geologist Bob Carter before her, Susan Crockford has been stripped of her Adjunct Professor status by a university with which she has a long history. Why? Because she promotes facts and eschews climate activism.

If only pesky Ursus maritimus would play ball.

Andrew Leonard

18th October 2019 at 12:57 am

Thanks for the link.
It’s scientific terrorism, and people who ‘believe in climate change’ support this, implicitly.

A Game

18th October 2019 at 7:13 am

A Leonard:
Loving your analysis of the power structures at play. A little too creepy to be true? Yeah… which is what makes it such a horrible thing to be happening. There is definitely a case to be made that this is exactly what is going on. (Though there is a suggestion that its brown/black people against the XR white supremacists… I think the brown/black people are the tools of the other white supremacists, the ones in denial.)

I think you have to be kinder to the general population about not backing up heroes and martyrs like Climategate. The rise of social media, people’s reliance on it for news, the sheer weight of distraction social media plays in people’s lives… and they think a comment and a like is what you do to support something… grass root activism (and maybe XR have actually shown the people something right… don’t sit at home and grumble – just make sure your cause is true… you notice their objectives shift day to day depending on what criticism they get?) might make a comeback. Apparently the police are A-Okay with that.

Secondly, with the media signed up, every step of the way, but without their political declaration preceding any of their stories/interviews… it has helped deceive people, incessantly. Then manipulating news events to suit their narrative. People never know how bad it is… until they know.

Hopefully the… dislike for XR can be used as a springboard for people to stand up, make MPs accountable for their policies, pay attention to what is happening in the system, what is being funded by governments, what the wealthy are up to week to week in eroding their responsibilities in society (and jumping on the diversity bandwagon is not one of those responsibilities), what obstacles are always being removed to make their life easier to get more, spend less, care less…

XR have only been allowed to appear in a period of distraction and apathy.
People are being pounded incessantly with bad news, stupid ideas, wastes of money, good things turning sour… its helping to create jadedness… which plays into the power mongers hands.
Brexit has been brilliant for helping to overturn this.
Any discussion about it… the Remainers are lagging dreadfully in knowledge and understanding. That’s very telling.

Andrew Leonard

18th October 2019 at 4:18 pm

@A Game
What do we know about XR, that makes them very different from the usual leftist environmental group?

• Painted white faces

• Red robes to signify a collective bloodline

• A suspicious looking logo – see Jerry Owen’s comment above

• See links re philosopher and N@z! party member, Martin Heidegger, in reply to Jerry

• Observe that most members are ‘Nordics’ and ‘Alpines’

• Observe sweet yet feisty ‘Aryan’ girl with plaited hair, heading the youth wing of the movement

• Notice this girl believes her future has been stolen by people in positions of power – reminiscent of a German leader of the 20thC, who believed army generals had stolen Germany’s rightful future by surrendering prematurely (surrender is a dirty word, don’t you know?)

• Notice this girl speaks in the same resentful, accusatory, and enraged manner as the German leader mentioned above

• Notice this girl is also against modern power technology, like nuclear – similar to Heidegger.

• Observe members fighting with and harassing members of the public in public places, as did members of the N@z! party.

• Observe the resistance of XR spokespeople to the idea that the developing parts of the world should be allowed to develop to the level of the first world, and that all these developing parts consist of predominantly non-white populations

• Observe the multi-day occupation of the centre of London – the UK’s most multicultural city

• Observe the head of XR – admitting that the achievement of the organisations goals, would likely result in deaths

Can you see what we’re dealing with here?

William Murphy

17th October 2019 at 11:39 am

My huge enjoyment of the XR fiasco has been increased by the Guardian’s petulant articles from various sub-minorities who feel excluded from thee fun. One article asked why XR is so white. Obviously it is the white privileged who have the money and spare time to protest. Another asked about the inclusion of disabled people – obviously scrambling on top of a train is much tougher if you are in a wheelchair. As for the increasingly desperate articles defending Greta Thunberg – the Grandad looks more like a religious nutter mag every week.

Andrew Leonard

17th October 2019 at 11:58 am

“One article asked why XR is so white.”

Because this is a proxy race war.

Behind the scenes, there seems to be two globalist groups fighting for dominance. The first wants to see London become a black & brown city. Few or no whites. The other group is neo-Feudalist, with a strong element of white-supremicism. Both groups have backing from the uber-rich.

We live in interesting times.

Thomas Billings

18th October 2019 at 5:24 am

I read somewhere that the meek will inherit the earth. I’m beginning to see a clear picture of it now. None of these groups you describe here would be invited. Just people loving and caring for each other. Peace be with you.

Ian Davies

17th October 2019 at 2:51 pm

No doubt a complaint will be raised for not providing access ramps to the train roof. And our police will be out to round up suspects.

Cody Bailey

17th October 2019 at 11:31 am

“But the problem here isn’t tactics – no, this ugly, elitist inconveniencing of ordinary people represents the actual content of XR’s outlook.”

Bingo. Ultimately environmentalism is about destroying people’s ability to create wealth and control over the energy supply.
With the left their every cause is about reducing ordinary people’s power and increasing their own. The watermelons don’t give a flea’s fart about the environment. What they do care about is making sure you do as you are told.

Ven Oods

17th October 2019 at 11:27 am

I would imagine that, if the Brits weren’t generally a pretty phlegmatic bunch, some of the XR protestors might have perished before the climate could get them.
But, one protestor kicking at commuters is just that: it shouldn’t be generalised into anything else.
(I just wish I’d bought shares in superglue before this stuff kicked off.)

A Game

18th October 2019 at 6:59 am

Its all in the doing. He could have just stepped away and accepted someone else’s right to be on top of the train.
The manner in which hekicks out, the expression on his face, the intent to do as much damage as possible… not a good look for people who claim their goodness is the only goodness to be found on the entire planet. When tested… ginger was a thug.

Danny Rees

17th October 2019 at 11:20 am

A few people on the Tube getting annoyed with climate change protestors demonstrates a massive working class uprising against posh eco warriors.

HA HA HA good one Brendan.

Jerry Owen

17th October 2019 at 2:45 pm

Danny Rees
Nowhere in BON’s article does he reference to ‘a massive working class uprising against posh eco warriors’. I don’t wish to embarrass you, but it does help a tad if you read an article before commenting on it..just saying Danny !
Or is it John Hen ?

Jim Lawrie

17th October 2019 at 2:57 pm

No. Not a few. Everyone there expressed condemnation one way or t’other.

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