It’s not Jacob Rees-Mogg who is disrespecting democracy

Arrogant MPs are riding roughshod over the will of the people.

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Jacob Rees-Mogg was chided by MPs and seemingly the whole of Twitter last night for lounging in the House of Commons during a critical Brexit debate.

Green MP Caroline Lucas called Mogg’s posture ‘contemptuous’ and ‘the physical embodiment of arrogance’.

Mogg’s horizontal posture ‘demeans the Commons’, said Labour’s Lord Falconer. For Labour MP Toby Perkins, it showed that Mogg felt he was ‘born to rule and far too important to listen to anyone else’s view’. Labour MP Karl Turner tweeted: ‘I’ve never felt a sense of entitlement. This is what that looks like!?’

But the opposition MPs doth protest too much. After all, following the debate, they voted to wrest control of parliament from the government in an attempt to outlaw a No Deal Brexit – which, in effect, means outlawing Brexit full stop.

These MPs might not be as posh as Mogg and might not have gone to Eton, but they are the arrogant and entitled ones here. They think nothing of riding roughshod over the largest democratic mandate in UK history.

The new elite, embodied by the schoolmarmish Caroline Lucas and centrist Labourites, are united in their contempt for Brexit and, by extension, democracy itself. And that is far more shocking than a horizontal Jacob Rees-Mogg.

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quizqueen W

6th September 2019 at 10:14 pm

Dr ‘Death’ says people will die because of Brexit; perhaps he would like to tell us how many UK citizens have died because of longer hospital waiting lists over the last 40+ years we have been in the EU (and its forerunner) because there are too many people in this country largely caused by immigration.

I am a great fan of Jacob and, although I do not like to see him lounging in this way in the H of C, what shocks me more is that there were so many empty seats that he had space to do so. Every MP of every party should be there for important debates or indeed any debate. That is what they are paid for.

Eric Blair

5th September 2019 at 7:36 am

That will be the multi-millionaire Old Etonian Jacob Rees-Mogg who has moved his business interests to Ireland, and is so representative of Spiked’s toiling masses sabotaged by the Remainer elite is it?

Michael Lynch

4th September 2019 at 9:34 pm

Heard a new Labour member having a sly dig over Mogg’s presumed slouching. She was banging on about the integrity of JRM and the Boris Government. She’d been a school teacher and laid out a detailed description of what her idea of integrity is. Well, I thought, what about her integrity and that of Labour, who not only triggered article 50, but also ran on a mandate of respecting the referendum result in the last election. Wonder how she got through her whole career without an understanding of irony?

Michael Lynch

4th September 2019 at 9:28 pm

Usual inane stuff and name calling when people can’t get their way. JRM might be an Etonian toff, but he is no anti-democrat. The trouble is that he came too close to the truth when he called the rebels arrogant for their lack of integrity. Members of Parliament are only lent their power by the people and they are, in fact, mere guardians of the sovereignty of the British people. Instead, they’ve handed this over to Brussels by capitulating.

Adrian W

4th September 2019 at 7:56 pm

I heard people commenting about this last night and one of them said that he isn’t being arrogant or entitled – the reason he does this (and he has done it many times before) is that because he is so tall, if he sits up straight, he will block people in the two rows behind him from the cameras.
It might be worth checking if this is the case before leaping on the outrage carousel.

Gareth Correlian

4th September 2019 at 6:39 pm

I come from the welsh valleys, poor and hating the Tories. This man though is a legend. Whether from comfort or contempt at the braying idiots I respect his choice of pose.

Dominic Straiton

4th September 2019 at 7:18 pm

The flak starts when your nearing the target.

Simon Wilkinson

4th September 2019 at 6:24 pm

There is always the possibility that he IS superior. That his lying back was a spontaneous expression of disdain for the duplicitous spin of the Remain faction and their self-deluding efforts to overthrow democracy. I get it totally.

Amin Readh

4th September 2019 at 5:44 pm

Ah yes… Spiked! the supposed champion of the Working Class and Jacob Rees Mogg. Think not.

Michael Lynch

7th September 2019 at 9:01 pm

Well Labour are not supporting the working classes. That’s for sure.

Dominic Straiton

4th September 2019 at 5:26 pm

I always find it amusing when the left go for the most ridiculous outrage against socially conservatives while having no argument. Sicks and stones and all that.

Amin Readh

4th September 2019 at 5:42 pm

Sick?

moqi fen

4th September 2019 at 2:53 pm

@cornel tucker – the scots seem happy enough to be part of the union when England is paying for their public spending.

Alex Gordon

4th September 2019 at 2:40 pm

Serious question….can anyone relay any quotes from MP’s yesterday which convey more deference and respect for the plebiscite than the following from JRM
“Sovereignty comes from the people to Parliament, it does not come to Parliament out of a void…..We should recognise that the people are our masters and show us to be their servants, not to place ourselves in the position of their overlords”

John Millson

4th September 2019 at 2:29 pm

His public persona is supercilious – a ‘barmaid’s idea of ”gentleman” ‘. No self-deprecatory sense of humour.
Money-grubbing monster.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

4th September 2019 at 1:33 pm

JRM deserves all the abuse he gets. The man claims to be a patriot but is clearly a grubby anarcho-capitalist and Randian speculator who stands to make a great deal of money from a collapsing pound and/or the economic collapse of the UK. Somerset Capital opened a second branch in Dublin in order to mitigate what they know to be the very negative effects of Brexit (particularly hard Brexit) on the UK financial sector. On moral questions, JRM also appears to put his allegiance to the Papacy above the needs and freedoms of the people of this country, as is evident from his position on abortion. The man is an anachronism and a demagogic anti-democrat.

cliff resnick

4th September 2019 at 2:23 pm

Try some Chinese blogg you might be more at home in the gulag

Bella Donna

4th September 2019 at 5:44 pm

Cry me a river! Rant all you like I don’t give a damn.

Amin Readh

4th September 2019 at 11:00 pm

@ Bella Donna

Clearly, you do. Made obvious by the fact that you replied to say so!

cornel tukker

4th September 2019 at 1:24 pm

The will of the people? Not ‘the people of the UK’, that is. Just England and Wales were in favor of leaving. Scotland, Northern-Ireland and Gibraltar wanted to remain. If you believe that ‘the people of the UK’ is bullied by the EU, you rahter acknowledge the FACT that England bullies the peoples of Scotland, Northern-Ireland and Gibraltar. On a whole the referendum resulted in 51,9% for leaving and 48,1% for remaning, while altogether almost one-third of those people didn’t even vote! So, claiming that ‘the will of the people’ was denied yesterday by blocking Boris, is a scam, like Rees-Mogg is a phony and Dominic Cummings a Raspoetin. Wake up!

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

4th September 2019 at 1:35 pm

Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and Northern Ireland must leave the UK for their own sanity and protection. The solution may be to create some sort of Celtic Union to protect their fundamental liberties, shared economic interests and common Celtic cultural heritage.

SAOR ALBA

T Zazoo

5th September 2019 at 2:41 am

Brittany too then, no doubt? Should be a winner. I’ll let Macron know.

Ed Turnbull

5th September 2019 at 9:05 am

“almost one-third of those people didn’t even vote!” – and who’s accountable for that? They are – those who *chose* to not vote. If you fail to exercise your right to participate in a vote you have no moral high ground from which to complain if you don’t get the result you desired. And even if you *did* vote, but didn’t get the outcome you wanted, you *still* have no moral authority to complain.

In a democracy you don’t always get what *you* voted for. Sometimes the other side wins. An *adult* understands that, a child not so much. I have respect for those who voted remain but accept they lost and now wish to see the result implemented. I have zero respect for those who behave like six years stamping their feet and, in effect, yelling “it’s not fair!”. The thought of such emotionally immature people having the franchise concerns me greatly. It’s about time they grew up.

Geoff Cox

9th September 2019 at 1:43 pm

… and yet, I think it is true that England, over the last 60+ years, has only once voted for a Labour government (1997 Blair).

Zammo McTrotsky

4th September 2019 at 12:58 pm

Eton-Oxford-City-hedge-fund-“we-know-the-will-of-the-people.” Who was too ashamed to put their name to this piece-o’-shit article? You were right to. It’s rubbish. It’s not the “largest democratic mandate in British history” either, you twat, and certainly not the most stable, having faded almost immediately, the majority of voters oppose Brexit and have done for ages, according to the overwhelming majority of polls, but these idiots at Spiked have fetishised the result, and being the sort who have trained themselves in advocating (believing?) the self-evidently false during their time as a political cult have to commit themselves more and more deeply to it, and harvest more (subjective) “evidence” that they are right, through social comparison. “The will of the people.” They were horrible bastards when they were pretending to be marxists, they are still bastards now they are neo-reactionaries.

harry briggs

4th September 2019 at 12:57 pm

Well it is boring listening to the greens, I have seen him doing this before though and it’s only when the benches are near empty when all the sensible MP’s have had enough and gone for drinks.

cliff resnick

4th September 2019 at 11:59 am

“Posh Boy” with attitude I’m sure it will do little to dent his popularity, the Brits do like a “bit of a character”

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 12:20 pm

You forget that the Tories need increased votes from all sections of society in order to regain their majority and form a workable government. Rees-Mogg needs to attract people who didn’t previously like him. You think this is the best way of doing it?

cliff resnick

4th September 2019 at 2:16 pm

yes

A Game

4th September 2019 at 11:56 am

The BoJo Moggy Show is the hottest ticket in town.

Too funny when Corbyn couldn’t resist the ego hit of declaring himself ready for any election, all fired up. He forgot to keep his eyes down on his script and accidentally looked up. Oops.

I’ve just looked up the “scandal” of JRM handing that whiney doctor his arse on radio. Yeah… seems some people don’t get the idea of what mitigating an identified risk actually means. Which also means, as he alluded to in saying that its a good thing other people are writing up Yellowhammer 2, because with that helpless attitude (and the whole Remain argument stems from a place of helplessness and continues to be supported from a place of frightened helplessness) you have no business whatsoever having a hand in government.

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 12:15 pm

How did he hand the doctor his arse?

What facts or insight did Rees-Mogg provide that proved the doctor wrong?

Oh, he didn’t provide any facts or insight, only vague feelings and blind hope?

As you were.

A Game

5th September 2019 at 1:11 am

Gordon Parmenter:

Another person it seems can be added to list for not understanding what it means to MITIGATE an identified risk. The doctor’s job was to identify whether anyone might die, falling through a crack in the change-over and what would be needed to be done to prevent that. Doctor Death here, forgot to bring up his contribution to Yellowhammer in how he would MITIGATE (his own word for his role in Yellowhammer) said, identified risk. Which would mean NO ONE WOULD DIE BECAUSE HE DID HIS JOB PROPERLY.
Thus he’s left himself wide open by declaring that people would die, die, die with a no deal Brexit, for Moggy to declare that he, therefore, is an incompetent fool and thankfully someone else is now writing the paper on what would be required to prevent DEATH. AKA MITIGATE the risks of someone dying.

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 11:52 am

Mogg’s behaviour was worse than that of a petulant child. Truly embarrassing. He’s turned off many who might have been on the cusp of supporting him, or supporting Brexit.
Even Leave voters I’ve spoken to recognise the insolence of his behaviour yesterday. He demonstrated the validity of every criticism levelled at him. He’s a joke. And let’s not even begin on his pitiful defence of WTO rules, taken apart artfully by Ken Clarke. Mogg demonstrated that he literally doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
On top of all that, this article is so half arsed – I don’t even think you believe what you’re typing. You know Mogg has alienated many. You know a No Deal Brexit’s dead in the water. I can sense the sadness and resignation in your prose.

Jerry Owen

4th September 2019 at 11:57 am

Meanwhile Parliament is outlawing the will of the people.. what a trite post .

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 12:18 pm

People will be given another say. Chill out.

cliff resnick

4th September 2019 at 4:41 pm

he means, made to vote again till they get it right

Nick Harrison

4th September 2019 at 11:46 am

All decent and rational people recognise that this body language screams contempt, disrespect, arrogance and entitlement.

If anyone from the opposition benches had adopted this stance you’d be howling and you absolutely know it.

T Hauxwell

4th September 2019 at 12:09 pm

Actually, what it shows is that JRM, as a man of above average height, finds it difficult to sit in those horrible, over-stuffed, shiny leather bench seats. Having sat on similar, and being above average height myself, I can understand why he chooses to lounge rather than sit. Any MP and anyone who spends any time watching broadcasts from the HoC will know that JRM always sits like that, so the only surprise here is that the righteous indignation squad have only just noticed.

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 12:18 pm

I’m well aware he’s adopted this position before. And whenever he does it it’s unbecoming, especially when such a vital debate is taking place. He didn’t have to recline in such a prominent position as he evidently wasn’t taking part in the debate at that point. He’s an attention seeker. He literally had his back to Caroline Lucas as she spoke. Utter disrespect and I’m glad it was called out by parliamentarians from all sides of the debate.

Amin Readh

4th September 2019 at 5:45 pm

@ T Hauxwell

He has managed it before. And he has since birth been brought up on such seating.

Steve Gray

4th September 2019 at 11:45 am

The demand for more accountable politicians, for more control over your own destiny, for a better life, is a much bigger deal than Mr Rees-Mogg.

Anyone who uses him as a way to slag off just over the other half of Britain, needs to grow some balls and express their prejudices more explicitly.

Gordon Parmenter

4th September 2019 at 12:13 pm

If working class people respect Rees-Mogg then they deserve slagging off.

What makes people so submissive and obsequious towards toffs like this bloke, who pipes metaphorical warm manure into their ears? There’s no practical detail in his statements only vague wittering, dog whistles and demagoguery, rendering him incapable of responding to the arguments made against him.

He has no answers when his wilfully ignorant take on our future in the WTO was exposed. It’s not a prejudice to be wary of arrogant dishonest charlatans and Rees-Mogg has proven himself to be one. People do not realise the extent to which he’s taking them for a ride.

Why are people who support him not alarmed by his inability to set out a post-Brexit future with any basis in reality or facts? How can they listen to his responses to genuine concerns posited by genuine politicians from all sides, and not think he’s a bumbling, evasive fraud? Worse still he tried to introduce frivolity and facetiousness into the debate yesterday to make up for his lack of insight.

He will be remembered for the cynical, self-interested charlatan he is.

Steve Gray

4th September 2019 at 3:55 pm

Gordon,

Compared to what’s at stake over the Leave vote, Mr Rees-Mogg is a pretty tangential figure. None of the current elected representatives in Westminster take the electorate as seriously as they ought to.

Meanwhile, folk who do not like the Leave vote, or ‘the kind of people’ who voted Leave, tend to resist any attempt to fill in the blank space where a more nuanced understanding of where the Leave vote came from, ought to be.

Perhaps politicians have tapped into that ‘Who gives a **** what THEY think’ attitude and are exploiting it ?

It’s worked for decades, hasn’t it : Thatcher leaving the inner cities to rot away in ‘managed decline’, Blair tearing up Clause IV and smashing up the Middle East, Brown with his ‘Bigoted Woman’ diatribe, The Coalition expecting disabled people to trundle about picking up litter in exchange for their benefit money, the list goes on and on ..

Where were today’s self-appointed ‘defenders of democracy’ while all of that was going on ? The folk on the receiving end of the above policies would like an explanation !

Danny Rees

4th September 2019 at 11:21 am

Yeah I bet if Diane Abbott slouched in the Commons and anyone said anything about it they would be called racist.

See THAT’S how you do parody.

Michael Lynch

5th September 2019 at 5:57 pm

Thankyou, Danny, for that fine example of ‘woke’ parody. Cut us some slack, mate, and go elsewhere with your nonsense.

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