‘The green movement has become hysterical’

Greta Thunberg, eco-doom, and the new politics of fear: listen to Brendan O’Neill debate Fiona Ferguson of People Before Profit on BBC Talkback.

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ZENOBIA PALMYRA

25th August 2019 at 2:25 pm

True, the ‘Green Movement’ is now almost as hysterical as the anti-science reactionaries who oppose it.

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David Bramble

21st August 2019 at 12:57 pm

As a recently retired psychiatrist who specialised in the mental health problems of children and young people with intellectual disabilities, many of whom also fell within the autistic spectrum, I can wholeheartedly concur with Brendan’s views about the way Miss Thunberg is being used by her parents, the environmental NGO-complex and those who more overtly push the globalist UN Agenda 2030. Asperger’s syndrome renders people particularly prone to extreme and chronically disabling anxiety as well as tending to immediately trust other people because they have difficulties detecting guile. As such they are easily manipulated by adults with hidden agendas. Lastly, she has declared that she knows nothing about climate science, can actually see carbon dioxide ‘pollution’ and, despite her remarkable confidence in public, remains excessively fearful; so yes, she evidently still requires professional help to help her understand and master those fears and in not helping her to obtain this her parents are neglecting an important component of her basic needs, but also she clearly needs to spend more time at school being educated about science and particularly the growing body of real science that utterly refutes the premise of anthropogenic climate change that so upsets her, and also be taught that we cannot do anything to affect it because our contribution to climate change is vanishingly small.

Jerry Owen

21st August 2019 at 6:30 pm

David Bramble
I have a friend who had an autistic son , he had another issue as well but I can’t remember what it was I’m afraid to say.
She sent him away to a special needs school at around the age of 12 or so that dealt specifically with these issues. The next time I met him I couldn’t believe the change, and he now has a decent job and can socialize very well, a near enough normal young man. Proper schooling as you say is imperative for a good start. This helped my friends son no end.
Greta is a 16 year old girl, at that age both boys and girls are at an impressionable important awkward age.. Greta is in the Atlantic with no female privacy c**pping in a plastic bucket for two weeks . That’s two weeks bobbing up and down at sea with no view of land just sea and sky, what other 16 year old girl would be expected to do that ? I thought today of all the stuff I have done, been to etc in the last week which is roughly when she set off, and all that poor girl has done is bob up and down at sea 24/7.
It is quite frankly barbaric what she has been made to do, it is child cruelty and as much as she is wrong and not a likeable child I feel very sorry for her.
Imagine if Farage sent his young girl on a boat across the Atlantic campaigning for Brexit.. can you imagine what the media would say ?
Greta is being used and we should be very concerned at what this experience will do to her.
Two weeks on a small vessel in choppy seas with no visible land is for the professionals and hardened sailors only, not a pubescent school girl .. albeit a skiving one.
Her ‘parents’ are an absolute disgrace.

Drew Peacock

20th August 2019 at 3:13 pm

They only gave Alvin the chipmunk the last 25 secs, how rude!

Drew Peacock

20th August 2019 at 3:10 pm

I still don’t understand how this yacht is going to ‘cure’ climate change.
Humanity will last exactly as long as it is supposed too and not a moment more. Climate change is the shiny object in the sky, distracting us from issues that are in our power to deal with now, but leaders are reluctant to deal with, for example, where the hell are all of us going to live. These issues are ignored cos it costs too much money, so it gets left to the next set of leaders, and then the next etc. Science and space exploration will be what saves humanity, if we can be saved, Not wind farms, solar panels, or carbon neutral yachts.
PS
Greta is being exploited. Quite obvious

Mark Houghton

19th August 2019 at 5:02 pm

If CO2 emissions are awful why are six crew members on Gretas yacht due to fly back to Hamburg once they’ve dropped her off in the states?

Amelia Cantor

19th August 2019 at 10:40 am

‘The green movement has become hysterical’

Indeed. “Hysterical” comes from the Greek hystera, meaning “womb”. So in fact, the Green Movement has been “hysterical”, i.e. wombly and wombynly, right from the beginning. It is an expression of female consciousness and an uprising against the patriarchy and its toxic avatars of neo-liberalism, capitalism and ecocide.

It obviously triggers O’Neill and his comrades that Greta Thunberg has come out of nowhere to become thousands of times more famous and influential than Spiked / the RCP in a fraction of the time O’Neill and his comrades have been desperately clamouring for attention. White male fragility, guys!

Jerry Owen

19th August 2019 at 1:41 pm

Poor little Amelia Cantor consumed by hate attacking the patriarchy, clearly totally oblivious to the fact that the ‘patriarchy’ in the form of governments led by old pale stale white men are leading the way. Still facts don’t enter into your single cell head.
Any news on the latest from ‘Neil Farage’ ?

Amin Readh

20th August 2019 at 3:26 am

How “stale” are you?

Amelia Cantor

20th August 2019 at 10:07 am

Poor little Amelia Cantor consumed by hate attacking the patriarchy, clearly totally oblivious to the fact that the ‘patriarchy’ in the form of governments led by old pale stale white men are leading the way.

My mistake. I must have missed all those initiatives undertaken by Trump, Johnson, Salvini, Bolsonaro et al to combat the Climate Catastrophe.

You will of course supply lots of links to educate me about (for example) how ecologically minded Trump is and what a fan he is of Greta Thunberg.

In reality (as opposed to your old pale stale white man’s fantasies) cisgender white men are leading the way to destruction of Gaia.

Jerry Owen

21st August 2019 at 6:13 pm

Governments my little Amelia .. it’s governments that are bringing in laws regulations to combat the mythical AGW scam. Look at how much our present government with all those white men in it are spending on AGW, not to mention all the other world governments also predominantly run by white men… thank God for white male politicians eh?
And Trump one of the best … produce your own fossil fuels instead of transporting it from terrorist supporting nations form across the world. Fracking, another great resource for mankind.

Jerry Owen

21st August 2019 at 6:14 pm

Any more news on ‘Neil Farage’ ?

Chis Marley

18th August 2019 at 2:33 pm

Greta stands in the British Parliament for all the word like the maid of Orleans to baptise another dose of snivelling accolytes in the unctious poisen of hate. Hatred of the human race. Call me a Jesuit but God created man in his own image then created woman (l) then he had a nap. Personally I would have done it the other way round…which might better explain the nap. I digress …back to Greta and her hate. I would have thought assigning guilt for an as yet to arrive planetary apocalypse on humanity and then suggesting a cull (this better include her parents first) could be considered hate speech. Surely even Scotland Yard couldn’t miss that.
Now I am angry. Because an intellectual indigent Australian murdered 51 human being in my city on March 15th. I cried. I listened to the helicopters passing over my home shuttling the victims to hospitals around New Zealand. The next day mention was made of a manifesto.I was suppressed. The Guardian mentioned white supremacists. The NZ Govt & MEDIA took the ball and ran with it. I would never read read such delusional bile anyway even if it hadn’t been suppressed. It would be an insult to the victims. Here`s the rub….I was reading a very good article on climate change malthusiasm contained in the Dayton screed. My God I stumbled straight into the sick foliage of the manifesto the pond life that so hurt our city and our friends. I was not pleased. I paused. It upset my moral compass. Forgive me I read on. Then I got realy angry. I despise climate emergency extinction hypocrisy. The don`t love the earth. They HATE humanity. To find this drivel is used as justification to murder 51 souls in our city but to accidentally dicover that Jacinda Ardern and the Labour/Green New Zealand Govt suppressed these salient facts because they didnt want to spread hatred.? but were comfortable allow the impression linger that it was a far right white supremisist conspiracy sort of thing when if fact the majority this bile was the same venomous anti- human hate being delivered up by a swedish 16 year child a snivelling gaggle of moral gimps that currently pass FOR MemberS of Parliamrnt in the UK. But as for the disgust I feel the New Zealand Government. This is peak hate…this s informed apoplexy…and hey Jacinda Ardern I would hate to think this manifesto was suppressed to avoid the collapse of your shitty little coalition lest the cold light of day shone a light on the consequences Green Party and the bilious hatred it has already inspired. And how about the race hatred and I would suggest borderline evil inherent allowing only the alt right ` white supremacist` `usual suspects` the public arena? Especialy sick in my opinion as Christchurch has been routinely branded racist over the years pretty much because to North Island eyes there are very few Maoris on the streets and we were once known as the most English of cities…because we had a cathedral and liked gardening. And to think of you in your hiquab holding the grieving families. You are a disgrace to to the human race. You are an insult to Islam. But worse you are a virtue signalling child …except you are 38. So though I can pity and forgive Gretta….I`m not qualified to forgive you Prime Minister..only God can do that.

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James Webb

18th August 2019 at 10:04 am

Climate Change the original Project Fear

Banana Man

16th August 2019 at 9:02 pm

“Brendan, you the man!” so said Fiona Ferguson several times.

Jim Lawrie

18th August 2019 at 10:27 am

That made me laugh.
Imagine her reaction to someone repunctuating what she said to alter its meaning? – if she could articulate that concept.
She also seems to have an insight into Brendan’s mind, with her constant “you know“.

Frank Sutton

16th August 2019 at 5:53 pm

They keep saying ‘the majority of scientists’. For the purpose of this claim. what counts as a scientist? Anyone in a lab coat? someone with a BSc? Or do they need a doctorate in some science? For this oft repeated claim to have any force, they need to define it.

Neil John

16th August 2019 at 9:26 pm

https://sciencecouncil.org/about-science/10-types-of-scientist/ is a starting point, though those of us in the classical physical sciences and derivatives have our own thoughts on some ‘sciences’…

Barry Watson

18th August 2019 at 8:35 am

It wouldn’t matter if it were ALL scientists, anyway, that isn’t how science works. Even if all scientists believe something is true, it doesn’t make it true. All scientists believed that plate tectonics was nonsense. What annoys me is when people call David Attenborough a scientist. He is not, he’s a naturalist – he doesn’t hold any science degree! I’m willing to bet my house that I know more about climate science than he does.

Amin Readh

20th August 2019 at 3:38 am

@ Barry Watson

“he doesn’t hold any science degree!” Since when are zoology and geology not science?

“I’m willing to bet my house that I know more about climate science than he does.”

He knows far more scientists than you do, personally. Attended far more science lectures. Has had far, far more people talking to him about it for years. He has read far more books than you. Been to far more of the earth. To more museums.

I am willing to bet that you have not read two books since you have left school. Any books!

Jim Lawrie

18th August 2019 at 11:22 am

Scientists in the sense of those who work in the sciences in academia or research are loathe to put their name to anything without being thoroughly convinced. The famous document signed by 2,000 scientists was fraudulent, as was the “research” by the University of East Anglia.
Unfortunately many scientists work on medium term research grants and can be pressured by the threat of withdrawal of funds.

Jim Lawrie

18th August 2019 at 12:50 pm

I’m usually convinced by someone in a lab coat wearing small, round, wire rim spectacles, speaking in a strong German accent and hair with a life of its own.

michael gryzna

18th August 2019 at 2:25 pm

Jim, you’re thinking of Professor Heinz Wolff.

Jim Lawrie

18th August 2019 at 5:27 pm

He fits the bill Michael. But there is a distinct lack of esses, and ess aitches in his name, and his glasses are not round, indicating that he has fallen victim to fashion.

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