‘Lockdown is not the “safe” option’


Watch spiked’s Tom Slater discuss lockdown, Big Tech censorship and safetyism on CounterCulture, hosted by Peter Whittle from the New Culture Forum.

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Jackie Robbins

1st June 2020 at 1:14 am

Excellent discussion. If only this conversation could reach the mainstream press. My only suggestion is where does China and the insistence of imposing the China Model on US and Europe? What is behind that? How much control does China have over our government officials? Is there money being received from China to top political officials in exchange for taking marching orders from China? Ultimately Wby did we adopt the Cbina lockdown model in the first place?

Carlo Weeks

13th June 2020 at 9:54 pm

Evidence is piling up that those in charge knew, from the very beginning, that the virus was not dangerous. Governments around the globe are engineering a situation where in reality more people will die because of state-imposed Corona virus measures than are being killed by the virus.

Who is behind it and why are we being globally mislead now?

The directives being acted upon by governments come from the World Health Organization (WHO).
The WHO is an agency of the United Nations, ostensibly responsible for international public health.
Others controlling the corona virus scare are national health agencies, most notably the U.S. Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the UK’s National Health Service (NHS).

The Centres for Disease Control and Prevention website contains “recommendations” from Event 201 (a practice Pandemic emergency).


It is clear from their exercises in Pandemic response that it requires the media, public health authorities, social media companies, faith leaders etc to get behind the official line, everything else is deemed to be fake news and will be actively suppressed.

That’s why it’s so difficult now to challenge the governments actions despite their own Chief Medical Advisors contradicting the potency of the virus.
Not only is there no freedom of the press, we are being actively manipulated by the press and social media!

Another worrying aspect is the role China is playing in this. On the UN website it states that UN China has shifted from traditional donor to a PARTNER! “Assisting the Government of China in its global engagement…

Given this Corona virus outbreak (and the fear generated by it) appears to have started in China it’s significant and troubling that the UN’s own agency, the WHO, (Partner of China) is controlling the Corona virus response!

The level of collusion between the UN, WHO and China is clear and chilling.

Cast our minds back to 21st Oct 2017 when the person now leading the WHO’s response to this “Pandemic” and turning our world upside down, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, thought in his wisdom to appoint Robert Mugabe as a UN goodwill ambassador. Yes that’s right, goodwill ambassador!!

Human Rights Watch criticised Dr Tedros during his campaign for WHO Director-General, because he was part of what they said was an authoritarian regime in Ethiopia that persecuted members of the opposition and journalists.

Given his record It’s not surprising Dr Tedros fits in well with the WHO’s new PARTNER, China. And we are letting the WHO control our handling of this fake “Pandemic”….

The acceptance of the current agenda by world leaders has been gained through their commitment to Agenda 2030. Agenda 2030 is full of wonderful ideals but is worthy of being listed as the worlds biggest Trojan Horse.

This agenda ties 193 countries to the recommendations of the UN. Individual national governments are not wholly free to make their own decisions especially when the “Global Emergency” card is pulled.

Why is this happening now?

Prior to this “Pandemic” we saw Extinction Rebellion protests that took place without any serious challenge by the police or government. In fact the police were often seen to be joining in. Unlike now, we are seeing carefully orchestrated protests that see conflict with police whipped up on social media.

Extinction Rebellion did have a roll to play in preparing our mindset for what is to come.

For many years scientists have been warning us about population growth.
More lately it has been presented to us as climate change…… (Yes, I believe the climate is changing, however I believe climate change is a natural condition which has been augmented by environmental destruction through human activity).

A warning about overpopulation came in a study carried out by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1972. The study explored the limits to growth using system dynamics theory and a computer model called “World3.
It was commissioned by the Club of Rome. This is significant, the Club of Rome consists of current and former heads of state, UN bureaucrats, high-level politicians, government officials, diplomats, scientists, economists, and business leaders from around the globe. Coincidently the same people and organisations controlling the response to this “Pandemic”.

In 1972 the study showed that world population was comfortably within it’s limits and able to accommodate more growth. However….
The same was not true when it was updated thirty years later.

“The salient message from the LtG modelling was that continued growth in the global economy would lead to planetary limits being exceeded sometime in the 21st century, most likely resulting in the collapse of the population and economic system.”


It begs the question that since the UN, business leaders and politicians etc (The Club of Rome) knew of these limits since 1972 and obviously suspected we were close to our limits long before then, why didn’t they make policies that would address it earlier instead of pushing and pushing for more growth?

Let’s take a moment to look at population growth.

Between 1900 and 2000 world population grew from 1.5 Billion to 6.1 Billion.
Since 2000 it has grown to approx 7.76billion, that’s 27% in 20 years!!

World population was anticipated to grow to around 10 Billion by 2050, that’s a 60% increase since the turn of this century. Clearly that rate of growth is not sustainable.

Since industrial growth drives population growth, the political logic seems to be that the reverse must be the solution. This “virus” appears to me to be the vehicle being used to deliberately crash the worlds economies and in turn reduce population.

Crashing the economies won’t affect the seriously wealthy and powerful. In fact it transfers more power and wealth to them, (The Club of Rome)… The poor however will experience this in a much different way, no jobs and as government financial support dwindles, no money to buy food. Food prices will rise as inflation sets in and the poor will become more desperate. Desperate actions will be met with brutal force..
Lets look at the measures being thrust upon us, clearly not because of the virus:
· Contact tracing amounts to nothing more than State surveillance.
· The wearing of face masks is the dehumanisation of the population.
· Social distancing makes us wary of others, turning everyone into a potential enemy. Whereas the opposite is true. Contact with other human beings challenges our immune systems, that’s how acquired immunity has worked for millions of years. This will in the long-term undermine our immune systems.
· Lockdown is house arrest and for some solitary confinement. It breaks down our social, family and religious connections and is detrimental to our mental health.
· Immunity passports are a way of introducing compulsory Bio-metric Identity Cards.
· New normal is a Global Totalitarian Dictatorship.

We are being conditioned to accept “Immunity passports” in the hope a vaccine can be found for this Corona virus. Chris Whitty said most people will survive it.

We need to bear in mind the only disease in humans that we’ve ever eradicated is smallpox. (We’ve eliminated polio from many areas of the world and the only cases that are around are vaccine-related cases).

A vaccine may never be found for this Corona virus (Sars-Cov 2) but what will be put in place are the control measures above.

The measures being promoted and legislated for now have nothing to do with looking after the interests of society, they are to control a planned reduction in the population and control the remaining population.

Back to the Club of Rome.
A paper was published in May 2019 written by David Spratt and Ian Dunlop entitled. “Existential climate-related security risk: A scenario approach”…..
David Spratt is a Research Director for Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration, Melbourne and co-author of Climate Code Red: The case for emergency action.
Ian Dunlop is a member of the Club of Rome. Formerly an international oil, gas and coal industry executive. Chairman of the Australian Coal Association. Chief executive of the Australian Institute of Company Directors, and chair of the Australian Greenhouse Office Experts Group on Emissions Trading 1998-2000.


In his forword to the paper Admiral Chris Barrie, AC RAN Retied says:
”A doomsday future is not inevitable! But without immediate drastic action our prospects are poor. We must act collectively. We need strong, determined leadership in government, in business and in our communities to ensure a sustainable future for human kind. In particular, our intelligence and security services have a vital role to play, and a fiduciary responsibility, in accepting this existential climate threat, and the need for a fundamentally different approach to its risk management, as central to their considerations and their advice to government. The implications far outweigh conventional geopolitical threats.”

“We need a social tipping point that flips our thinking before we reach a tipping point in the climate system.”
This “Tipping point” I believe has been engineered by this phantom “Pandemic”.

The document goes on to say:
“To reduce or avoid such risks and to sustain human civilisation, it is essential to build a zero-emissions industrial system very quickly. This requires the global mobilisation of resources on an emergency basis, akin to a wartime level of response.”
This is where we find ourselves now, The Club of Rome are on a war like footing and we are not allowed to know the truth.
We are their problem and they are dealing with us rather than giving us a choice to be part of the solution.
What is happening now is a transfer of power to the New World Order, Western power will collapse. The surviving populace will be micromanaged and a small elite will continue their lavish lifestyles.
There is a blueprint of the type of global society we will end up with is already up and running in China.
Is this what we really want? The freedoms we lose now we may never get back….
The main weapons being used against us are social media and our iphones. We need to think for ourselves if we and democracy are to survive.

We have seen this week, the Public outrage deliberately being whipped up on social media about Black Lives Matter. The more violent the demonstrations the more we legitimise the rights being taken away from us. Although there are those who think they are taking a very worthy stance the reality is they are being manipulated into dismantling the symbols of hundreds of years of Western culture prior to its demise.
If people were really outraged about slavery they would stop buying cheap imports made by slave labour now.
Who remembers the note in a box of Christmas cards asking for help? Where is the outrage now?? We cannot help those exploited in the past and we should not forget them, but we can help the ones being exploited now. I wonder how many of the demonstrators are wearing clothes made by slave labour and still turn a blind eye and choose to buy them…….

Totally Karen

19th June 2020 at 6:53 pm

This should be an article above the line. Have an applause.


30th May 2020 at 5:50 pm

do the populists and their supporters not realise that they the alt right and the supporters of austerity are clueless as well as the globalists


30th May 2020 at 5:48 pm

lockdown maybe brings a lot of problems , but do the populist supporters realise that its not a media driven agenda the truth we have one of the worst death rates along with trump , this surely should bang some heads together , tory austerity has made social inequality even worse this is a big factor in this crisis

Vivian Darkbloom

31st May 2020 at 9:49 pm

Has the lockdown made matters better or worse? I’d argue that this is most destructive decision imposed on the good people of this country by Parliament since… World War 1? The Black Act of 1723? The Reformation? The struggles between Crown and Parliament in the 17th century? I don’t even know if there exists a valid comparison.

Populists; Alt-Right; Austerity. These are just political buzzwords which most people, including myself, don’t really understand. Austerity though; those of you who support government policies ain’t seen nothing yet.


30th May 2020 at 1:54 pm

Here are some stories on today’s Guardian website;

‘Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson have wrecked something precious’
‘England lockdown easing is premature, says Burnham’
‘Covid-19 spreading too fast to lift lockdown in England – Sage advisers’

Endless lockdown is now the only politically correct position. It is impermissible to point out that this will destroy the economy, because only evil people care about that.
It’s also not permitted to dissent from the liberal/left position, because liberalism no longer allows a plurality of views.

Mike Coops

29th May 2020 at 11:48 pm

This is why I’m here…excellent debate..

Vivian Darkbloom

29th May 2020 at 9:23 pm

A very absorbing and rational broadcast. Thanks to all involved.

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