Woke class hatred

The loathing of ordinary people is now plain for all to see.

Tom Slater

Tom Slater
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This is a hard article to write, for legal rather than emotional reasons. You see, the main hook for this – an allegation from former Labour MP Caroline Flint that shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry told an MP in a Labour Leave seat she was ‘glad my constituents aren’t as stupid as yours’ – has now become the subject of a legal battle. (Thornberry strongly rejects the allegation and is suing Flint, who she has accused of ‘making up shit’ about her.) I leave readers to make up their own minds.

Luckily, as we’re talking about Labourites’ and Remainers’ brewing disdain for the masses, you don’t have to look far for other examples of it. Not least from Emily Thornberry herself. In 2014, after all, she had to resign from the front bench after tweeting a picture of a house in Rochester and Strood, draped in St George’s flags with a white van outside. It was widely interpreted as sneering. More recently, she was videoed bursting out laughing as Dawn Butler MP declared ‘I think if anyone doesn’t hate Brexit, even if you voted for it, there’s something wrong with you’.

Following last week’s remarkable election result, in which scores of working-class, Leave-backing Labour seats went Tory for the first time ever, anti-working-class bile was spewing from various prominent Labour supporters in the media. Labour activist and journalist Paul Mason wrote in the New Statesman that ‘at no point did Labour “desert” the working class. But a section of it deserted us last night, and I am not going to flinch from stating that in the places it did so there is now a toxic narrative of nativism and xenophobia’.

We would expect nothing less from Paul. As we would from pop star and Labour supporter Lily Allen, who has said Boris Johnson won the election due to ‘this country’s deep rooted racism and misogyny’. She has now quit Twitter because she says it ‘gives a voice to the far right’. In a similar vein, Scottish actor John Hannah – the one from Four Weddings and a Funeral – has said ‘we’re a country of racists and Brexit/EU scepticism is the cover’.

Now, Leave voters have been accused of racism and stupidity time and again since 2016. But up to now, Remainers would at least pretend, some of the time, that they were talking about middle-class Leavers in the Tory shires. But the defection of working-class Leavers to the Tories has brought to the surface the clear class-hatred element of all this. Months of left-Remainers spuriously suggesting that working-class people didn’t really back Brexit, or did so somewhat reticently, has now been blown out of the water. And Labourites’ and Remainers’ loathing of ordinary people is now on full show.

Most troubling in all this is the way in which anti-working-class bigotry is now laundered through apparent anti-racism. Despite the clear decline in racism in recent decades, the cultural and political elites have carved out a narrative that it is worse than ever before, particularly among Those People who drive white vans, support Brexit and dislike Jeremy Corbyn. In doing so, alleged left-wingers have made class hatred respectable and anti-racist politics look cut-off and vaguely ridiculous. Which is bad news for both class politics and anti-racist politics.

That the left needs to learn lessons from this historic defeat is obvious. What I’m wondering is if they are even capable of doing so. Many Labourites and liberals don’t only misunderstand working-class people — they genuinely despise them. It’s less that they don’t know how to win over the people of Blyth Valley or Wrexham, and more that they kind of don’t want to. That is at least part of the reason why Labour prioritised the votes of middle-class Remainers over working-class Leavers, and why so many of its prominent supporters have doubled down on the prole-bashing in the wake of the result.

Tom Slater is deputy editor at spiked. Follow him on Twitter: @Tom_Slater_

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Comments

Linda Payne

30th December 2019 at 5:40 pm

I never voted for any of them, I spoiled my ballot paper, from now on I am refusing to be engaged in politics until I get a job

Paul Carlin

28th December 2019 at 9:31 pm

…But has Yasmin Alibhai-Brown left the country in disgust yet? The Nation needs an answer.

RICHARD FEIBEL

27th December 2019 at 2:13 pm

I’M NOT BRITISH OR ENGLISH OR WHAT EVER YOU PEOPLE CALL YOURSELVES THESE DAY’S,I’M AN AMERICAN.AND IN THE US THE REPUBLICAN NEOCON ISRAELI FIRSTERS TOLD US THROUGH THEIR ZIONIST MEDIA THAT CORBYN IS AN ANTI SEMITE! AND FROM WHAT I HEAR ON MY SITES THE UK VERSION OF ”AIPAC”HAD SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DEFEAT HIM BY CALLING HIM AN ANTI SEMITE IF SO? THEY DID THEIR JOB AND THEN SOME.PROVES MONEY TALKS AND BS WALKS.UK IS NO MORE A DEMOCRACY THAT THE US OR ANY OTHER REGIME THAT CALIMS SO!!

David McDowell

22nd December 2019 at 10:05 pm

Here’s an interesting blog piece I stumbled across. A rather frenetic attempt by a lefty chap to prove, with lots of big words, that the proles have been brainwashed:

https://gaslightinggilligan.com/2019/11/23/fooled-into-fascism-an-intro-to-plastic-patriotic-programming-toddler-to-teenager-to-tabloidhood/

Modern Money

21st December 2019 at 9:39 pm

I fail to understand why you are giving the Conservatives a free pass Tom ?

They were doing the exact same thing until Farage set up the Brexit Party.

We all know what the liberal left did and the liberal centrists but the liberal right were just as bad.

Liberalism is the problem here rather than the colour of the party

Quentin Vole

20th December 2019 at 10:23 pm

The problem for Fivebellies is that, though she may not have said it, everyone who looks at her, including her Labour colleagues, is thinking “It’s just the sort of thing she would say”.

James Knight

19th December 2019 at 1:52 pm

I am less worried about whether she did say those things and more worried at the quite approval of her astute political insight in warning Corbyn not to have an election. Yes, you can avoid humiliating election defeats by avoiding elections while continuing to block and frustrate parliament. Why she thinks this makes her a stronger candidate for a leader is beyond me, it only shows show a depth of cynicism beneath that of Corbyn.

Graham Woodford

19th December 2019 at 9:30 pm

A bit difficult to follow what you are saying due to grammatical incoherence but I think you are criticising Thornberry for advising against agreeing to an election.

Can’t think why. The first law of warfare is never fight on the battleground chosen by your opponent. The Libdem scouts hollered their way into battle and Labour reluctantly followed, as the SNP laughed up their sleeve. Now, as seemingly ever, the etonocracy rule and ‘Spiked’ commentators claim we’re in revolt against the establishment.

Michael Lynch

20th December 2019 at 11:58 am

The point made was entirely pertinent. The very fact that the electorate hammered Labour clearly demonstrates that they were fed up with being locked out of the debate. A debate, as far as the people were concerned, that had already been decided by the referendum. If they’d have continued to deny the people’s voice then the result for Labour would have been far worse.

Robert Johnson

19th December 2019 at 8:24 am

Zenobia – a hasty and inadequate response. Irritation and lashing out gets nowhere. These ideas put forth by Steve have gained ground. So I repeat: I’m keen for them to be “picked apart if anyone can.” So this is an invitation to you…can you offer something by way of content, something more than short one line sentences?
Also explain why you think I want to “Destroy democratic opposition in England”

Jon Hubs

18th December 2019 at 7:53 pm

The Labour party unfortunately paid heed to the echo chamber of social networks and it has made them as irrelevant as these chatter spaces.

Michael Lynch

20th December 2019 at 12:00 pm

Well put. Except for Spiked, whose continued support for democracy seemed like a voice in the wilderness prior to the election.

Joseph Brown

18th December 2019 at 5:03 pm

What’s ironic is that these people and their celebrity mates did more to sway the British people against them than any other factor.

So with that in mind I would just like to say thank you. Thank you all for helping the British people make the right decision.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

18th December 2019 at 12:02 am

Reading some of these comments, anyone would think that the Tories lost the election. There seems to be some residual fear of Labour and a desire to portray all opposition to Toryism as communism, which is utter nonsense. From here in the centre, both Labour and the Tories look like extremist nutters to me.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

17th December 2019 at 7:25 pm

Why does Tom Slater believe in the virtue of the masses? Is truth decided by democracy? Do ‘ordinary voters’ possess special virtues that the rest of us do not have? In my experience, many people in places like Essex and County Durham are indeed small-minded bigots with a simple-minded, childlike faith in the moral superiority of the English ethnos. The good people of Clacton and Basildon would benefit hugely from some instruction in the great achievements of European culture, starting with some German lessons.

Cedar Grove

20th December 2019 at 10:54 pm

That’s precisely the view Hitler imposed on France,Belgium, Poland, etc.

In these Islands, we prefer to take our Germanic culture as a choice, not a demand.

Graham Woodford

17th December 2019 at 3:47 pm

Surprised you mention it’s ‘bad news’ for anti racist politics, as that doesn’t seem to feature on Spiked except when it’s referred to as an obsession of the bourgeois, multi-cultural, metropolitan elites.

This is thin stuff to attack Labour on, even by Spiked standards. The evidence for the hyperbolic claim of the Labour Party (not anyone with access to social media) ‘loathing’ the working class would hardly stand up in a court of law, m’lud, as we might amusingly find out. The idea that a party aiming for office might not even want the support is just fantastical.

Elsewhere in the bash-fest of the Labour Party that is Spiked On-line, there is at least an interesting observation that one of the reasons why working class support for Labour – well some specific type of working class support but it’s not normal to deal with anything other than generalities on Spiked – has ebbed away so strongly is that such communities don’t want patronising, they want political agency. But never a word beyond Brexit itself is said on Spiked about what this agency is going to be from a Conservative Party representing working class views.

Labour lost for a lot of reasons, they include Brexit, which punished Labour even more on the ‘remain’ side than it did on ‘leave’, a leader who lacked credibility with many (particularly on being weak and being rather too sympathetic to terrorists, both in the past – let’s not go there or your view doesn’t get published on Spiked – and current Islamist variety), and an ‘offer’ which to too many sounded to be too good to be true. Spiked could try commenting on this but it doesn’t fit the Spiked narrative. Like the reality that anti-immigration policies (at best) and racism (at worst) has played a toxic part in politics for a long time, and did so in the Brexit referendum. To what extent is open to debate. Farage thought it was decisive, and you seem to like him, enough even to shelve your love of democracy and support and join a party which is a company with one Dictator- sorry, spellcheck, that should have been Director.

Filbert Flange

17th December 2019 at 3:02 pm

I really must inject myself into the discourse again, with yet another warning. Unless and until something is done about the weaponization of youth, the misanthropes will win. There is a reason the wokesters are so open and even belligerent — they control the future, whilst not really controlling themselves as is so very plain to see. Yes, they are having some technical difficulties getting their legions armed and airborne, but all they need to address that is a leader with a little charisma, or better yet, an identity ala Obama. Defeating Corbynism was a lay up.

Im not sure folks realise just how close we all are to being shoved into the rotating knives. I am hopeful Boris the Johnson has a plan to make conservatism attractive to youth, young and old. It isn’t a hard thing to do — only costly, and there’s the rub. Being cheapskates will be our undoing.

jan mozelewski

18th December 2019 at 9:17 pm

On the contrary, it doesn’t much matter that conservatism is unattractive to the young. None of us stay young forever….
A young relative has been telling me about the attitudes in an extremely PC/Woke/ liberal ‘elite’ office. Yet one wonders how many of them say one thing in public, on twitter, etc….but put their crosses by the Tory on the ballot paper notwithstanding.
As a student ‘wokeness’ is free and a passport to peer acceptance. When one starts to see inroads into one’s salary, has a mortgage and all the other responsibilities of adult life…the it most definitely comes at a price.

Jim Lawrie

17th December 2019 at 12:53 pm

More proof of their hatred is that in many London constituencies the Lib-Dem anti-working class stance doubled their share of the vote at the expense of Labour. Enough to be able to say that there was a pattern. Lewisham East, Lewisham West, Lewisham Deptford, Greenwich, Orpington, Beckenham, Bexleyheath. I haven’t time to look at all of them.
If they were to add anti-immigrant to that, they’d be in business.

Jonathan Yonge

17th December 2019 at 9:50 am

I am very relaxed about Hannah, Allen, Grant, Thompson and others makign their views known.
Very relaxed indeed

Neil McCaughan

17th December 2019 at 12:43 pm

It’s pretty clear that Steve Coogan and Paloma Faith swung it. For the Tories.

jon perry

17th December 2019 at 9:46 am

It would seem that the left have all become mind readers and seem to know the motivation of anonymous people by something as cryptic as a tick in a box. Or perhaps it just suits their agenda to smear millions with the racist brush because when all you own is a hammer everything looks like a nail. I believe that the real bigots here are the snotty middle class trendies on the left who look down their noses at everyone including foreigners with their bigotry of low expectations. These types come across as the new aristocrats that swan about completely unaware that a bubbling resentment builds around them. They should thank their lucky stars that the British are more reserved than the 18th century French.

steve moxon

17th December 2019 at 11:13 am

Not for that much longer. We make high-spec steel here in Stocksbridge (a now blue brick in the red wall) and used to make 50%+ of all of the razor strip in the world. We can make any number of super-sharp-edged guillotines with ease.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

19th December 2019 at 2:34 pm

That typical Brexit thuggery. Steve Moxon sees a traitor in every bed! This crude nationalism will lead to more deaths. I guess Jo Cox was’t enough for these people…

William Brown

17th December 2019 at 1:36 pm

Spot on.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

19th December 2019 at 2:37 pm

Jon Perry is an arrogant mindreader who believes he speaks for the whole of the UK. That clearly is not the case.

John Little

16th December 2019 at 9:36 pm

What we are witnessing is the descent of the Labour party into it’s final decadent state. In which the repulsive Marxist snobs who now own it have finally come out of the closet and declared their hatred and loathing for ordinary working people. In their decadence they have thus turned the Labour party into an organisation that stands for the diametric opposite of what it’s founders created it for.
Personally I wear the scorn of brutes like Mason and Thornberry as a badge of honour.

Michael Lynch

17th December 2019 at 12:46 am

Hear! hear!

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 10:18 am

“repulsive Marxist snobs”
That’s a bit harsh, John. Some of them are quite easy on the eye.

steve moxon

17th December 2019 at 11:24 am

Eh? Lisa Bambi’s on the ‘right’ (if still relatively nutty) wing, as also is Stella Crease-up? Rebecca Short-on-everything sounds and looks like she’s trying to eat a swarm of bees. The one Rod Liddle used to lust after lost her seat. And Jess is no Philly, and anything but a MILF!

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 2:53 pm

I wrote ‘easy on the eye’, Steve. That doesn’t equate to ‘total babes’.

William Brown

17th December 2019 at 1:46 pm

I wish that I could share your confidence in socialism’s imminent demise. There have now been thirty-plus years of extreme left-wing indoctrination within all strata of civic society and service, including education, broadcast media, law and armed forces. It will take a lot of bleach to wash through, even if one could imagine that there would be no resistance. Believe me, the fight-back will be relentless and on an international scale. We must not let this minor win fool us into complacency.

Michael Lynch

18th December 2019 at 3:35 pm

I wouldn’t call it minor, William. Harking back to when Michael Foot lost, it took the LP ten years to come back to power. Only once it became socially democratic and rid itself of left loonies was it considered fit for re-election by the voters. Don’t forget they still retained the Northern voters back then so it could even take much longer if they carry on with the tomfoolery. That means ten years of good old fashioned Tory pragmatism. The age of emotional dimwittery is over, we just won’t feel the effect of this for a while. I don’t think people yet realize just how large a tectonic shift this has been. Us oldies have seen it all before.

William Murphy

16th December 2019 at 8:26 pm

Of course, Berthold Brecht noted the opinion of the East German elite on the proles years ago:

” Would it not in that case be simpler
for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Losung

But it’s still great to see Titania McGrath and her friend Ophelia telling it like it is in 2019:

“So proud of my friend Ophelia for these inspiring words.✊
If we really care about equality, we need to find a way to stop working class people from voting.”

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1205859214360481792?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Mark Lambert

16th December 2019 at 8:13 pm

“Decline of racism is clear”
Yes.
But there are groups who exist whose only purpose is to produce reports to try to tell us it’s worse than ever. One problem with that is that the media and MPs run with their statistics without bothering to discover how they have come such a big percentage.

I’m quite sure that there will be a report of a “spike” of racism in the week after the election because such groups are actively fishing for stories to boost their stats.

L Strange

16th December 2019 at 9:33 pm

Actually, they rarely bother with actual numbers, or manufactured ones for that matter. They just say that there’s a dramatic increase, it’s rising and so on. No particulars ever seem to be given and the MSM don’t ask for them, they accept the narrative unquestioningly.

Mark Lambert

16th December 2019 at 10:17 pm

You’re right about not questioning things.

But when the “spike” was investigated after the Boris article, a journalist found that they were using figures where the week before, the average had dropped from 16 to 8. So even if they then used the week later when it came back to the “average” they could have claimed a 100% rise. And the media will just run with it.
That sort of thing.

Michael Lynch

16th December 2019 at 8:07 pm

Well I know who I believe. We all know Thornberry has form with this sort of thing. You’d have thought she’d have shown a little humility after such a national defeat, but no, this insufferable snob just can’t help herself. She has such an over inflated opinion of her capabilities, typical of someone from her background, that it informs an ego, so large, that it crushes her pea sized intellect. Even if it is true that someone, possibly a leadership rival, said this to Caroline in order to damage Thornberry’s chances where is the magnanimity of the victor? This is further evidence of her arrogant, self serving attitude and total unsuitability for the Labour Front Bench. God help what’s left of the LP if they elect her to lead.

Tony Griffiths

16th December 2019 at 9:33 pm

Much speculation about the New Communist Party leadership contenders. For Conservative Party supporters Thornberry comes across as the best choice, she’ll alienate just about everybody as soon as she opens her mouth. However, for a free weekly comedy show the Wrong-Daily and Raynor partnershiop look to be the best bet – unless Lammy gets a look in of course.

Michael Lynch

17th December 2019 at 12:43 am

Don’t forget the pretend Brummie or the obdurate Starmer. They are done for and if I were Nandy, the ONLY credible candidate left, I’d shy off for a few years because there’ll be no controlling that lot.

James Knight

16th December 2019 at 8:02 pm

“nativism” sounds like the latest dog whistle politics from people who don’t like the uppity natives.

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 9:56 am

I’m always astounded and amused by the blatant double standards of such people.
If, in Britain, a group of people object to being invaded by folk from a different culture, that’s racism or (as we now learn) nativism.
But if a tribe in the Amazon rainforest are being invaded by representatives of the outside world, that’s shocking, and must be stopped immediately, because the Amazonians deserve to have their way of life protected from outsiders.
You couldn’t make it up…

jan mozelewski

16th December 2019 at 7:57 pm

It’s precisely because the quote uttered by Flint is just the sort of comment one would feel Thornberry more than capable of making (and much worse) that Thornberry is adopting this posture. Nobody could say, hand on heart that Emily Thornberry wouldn’t dream of saying such a thing. on the contrary it seems entirely likely. if it were otherwise, Thornberry would simply laugh it off or ignore it.

The plain truth is that…whether actually true or provably true or not….her reputation is such that she has to refute it. She shouldn’t need to.

Michael Lynch

16th December 2019 at 8:38 pm

Spot on.

bf bf

16th December 2019 at 10:16 pm

Damn it….. you beat me to it.

Danny Rees

16th December 2019 at 7:04 pm

Nobody has called working class people racist

Spiked always respond to criticism of racism by claiming those making the criticism is branding all working class people racist.

They are the ones who keep bringing up the working class re racism.Do they think they’re all racist?

Neil McCaughan

16th December 2019 at 9:31 pm

Your spokesman Paul mason did exactly that.

John Koenig

17th December 2019 at 6:37 am

And others did, too. They’re saying “We know their sort and what they’re like” in a perfect impression of a bigot.

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 6:44 pm

Your last paragraph Mr Slater is confirmed by the Left now saying “at least we stood by our principles”, although I don’t think they have in mind the same ones as you credit them with.

Christopher Tyson

16th December 2019 at 6:36 pm

The American comedian Reginald D Hunter has this joke about when he first met English people, he’d have a conversation, only realizing half an hour later that he had been insulted. My mother came to England from Guyana in 1958 to work as a nurse, the sister (ward manager) would say ‘nurse would you like to make the bed’, which to my mother sounded like an enquiry rather than an imperative. My point is that the middle classes have always had ways of mediating their prejudices, superficial politeness can mask all kinds of nastiness. Racial attitudes are spread amongst different class and communities, in our fragmented society it would not be correct to regard racists as a social type. The middle classes control the finances and they are the people you have to go to when you want a job. Indeed anti-racist remain attached to racial attitudes and ideas of racial difference. The state is no longer institutionally racist, and racist attitudes are widely frowned on, things have changed. I think that employment remains the big issue, in a capitalist economy most of us have nothing to sell but our labour, if you are discriminated against in the labour market this can have grave implications for your quality of life. People have short memories, it is not so long ago that the British Liberals were congratulating themselves on our multi-cultural success story as compared to the problems that that were occurring in other parts of Europe, including France and Germany. I had this little joke that Europe was where you went to to get racial abuse in languages that you didn’t understand, but that was a long time ago. Remainers are still banging on about xenophobia, racism, the media, low information and so on, they still haven’t got to a point when they are willing or able to have a serious conversation about national sovereignty, accountability, and the untangling of our complex economic relationship with the EU and the possibility of new relationships that may be of value to both side, the French and Germans also value their sovereignty and culture. Our academics and media are anthropological and behaviourists, the state even has a department committed for manipulating (nudging) our behaviour. When they start to talk to us not about us, that will be a breakthrough, and this is problematic, who is ‘us’, when ‘us’ arrives it’s usually in the form of a self-appointed community leaders. Maybe the state should talk to me and possibly you, the rastas have a term for it I and I.

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 9:41 am

“in a capitalist economy most of us have nothing to sell but our labour…”

Just out of interest, what would most of us have to sell in a socialist or communist economy? I’m intrigued to know the answer.

Willie Penwright

17th December 2019 at 10:40 am

In a socialist society, as in primitive societies, families and other groups, it is not required to sell your labour in order to live. You give it freely for the common good and share in the produce of your labour according to your need. It’s best defined as caring and sharing.

jan mozelewski

17th December 2019 at 1:52 pm

Oh dear Willie. How ever did we lose such an eden?
Of course, given how much evidence archaeologists have unearthed for violence, human sacrifice, cannibalism, defensive villages and clear status according to wealth….either they never got the memo on the caring and sharing bit, or human beings have been capitalist since the first spark was struck to make fire.

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 6:32 pm

Your opening paragraphs Mr Slater are a rousing case for the defence

jan mozelewski

17th December 2019 at 2:10 pm

My son knows i like a good mystery, especially one set in the past. So he sent me Bulldog Drummond. I’d heard of it, naturally, but never read it. (The first of the series) Rattling good read too.
However, what was most striking was the theme of it and the background. Very much on point with what is going on now, the cultural war being waged by those using ‘socialism’ as a vehicle for ends of their own. That was 90 years ago.

Dominic Straiton

16th December 2019 at 6:27 pm

“The goal of socialism is communism” Lenin. Looks like the British people are waking up to the revolution that has been going on for twenty years.

Geoff Cox

16th December 2019 at 6:10 pm

I wonder if it is time to own the word racist? #I’m a racist anyone?

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 6:54 pm

I’d prefer #WhiteInventions.

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 6:55 pm

#I’mARacist

jan mozelewski

16th December 2019 at 9:38 pm

#MeToo (sorry couldn’t resist.)

Neil McCaughan

16th December 2019 at 7:32 pm

Racism is normal and healthy, if not carried to excess. There’s something wrong with people who actively favour foreigners – it’s usually because their own kind don’t like or trust them..

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 9:51 pm

They do it as a bulwark against us.

L Strange

16th December 2019 at 10:16 pm

Reputable studies have shown that the only demographic with racial outgroup bias is white folk on the left, the self-styled ‘progressives’.

Along with white conservatives, everybody else has a slight tendency to ingroup bias – somewhere in the order of 11% to 15% of the time, if I remember correctly – regardless of race or political leaning.

The tendency to favour the ‘outsider’ is literally abnormal behaviour for humans.

jan mozelewski

17th December 2019 at 2:04 pm

Indeed so…They tend also to be the sort of people who, when a man-eating shark is culled, rain curses upon the victims because ‘they shouldn’t have been in the shark’s habitat ‘ and the ‘poor shark’ has died for nothing but human stupidity in having a paddle at the beach.
They don’t see how this logic runs contrary to their view on ….erm…nativism..
Incidently, it would seem that Nativism, like racism, will be very much according to who and where you are. In the Irish, Palestinians, Scots, Catalans, and Aboriginals it will be not just tolerated but celebrated. If you are English or WASP Americans, on the otherhand it will be deplored.

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 9:44 am

As in ‘I like racing; I’m a racist. I like detecting; I’m a detectorist’?

jan mozelewski

17th December 2019 at 6:40 pm

I am actually a detectorist! I feel empowered now!! Ists don’t have to produce isterics.

Neil McCaughan

16th December 2019 at 5:55 pm

Lady Lardarse may simply have been laughing at Dawn Butler, not at what she said. An entirely reasonable thing to do.

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 9:46 am

I had the same thought, Neil.
On the other hand, going by Lady Squeegee’s previous record…

Lord Anubis

16th December 2019 at 5:30 pm

Nothing new here. Who remembers Gordon Brown and “Bigotgate”. How DARE any working class person express concerns over the impact that Crime and mass immigration has had on working class communities!

Ven Oods

17th December 2019 at 9:48 am

Gordon wasn’t very nimble there. To the question ‘where are all these Eastern Europeans coming from?’ he could have quipped ‘Eastern Europe’ and moved on. Instead, he then spent hours inside her house, apologising for a comment he had definitely meant. Why do people do that?

Jonnie Henly

16th December 2019 at 5:17 pm

“You see, the main hook for this”

Is at best an unconfirmed rumour. But don’t let that stop you…

Neil McCaughan

16th December 2019 at 5:53 pm

Stated by a widely respected and reliably truthful former MP.
You are a fool.

Jonnie Henly

17th December 2019 at 10:28 pm

If she were so “widely respected” and “reliably truthful” then she would be a current MP, like Thornberry, rather than a former one.

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 10:08 pm

Thornberry is suing because she thinks people will believe it. She won’t be in up in front of the darling of her class Lady Hale who is apt to do the right thing for the right kind of people. So she should consider whether, in the light of her past utterances, a jury might believe it too.

Jonnie Henly

16th December 2019 at 5:15 pm

Perhaps senior figures on the left should be calling the working classes “uneducated” “ignorant” “aggressive”, and generally a bunch of criminals and layabouts.

We know Spiked wouldn’t have a word of criticism if that were the case.

Danny Rees

16th December 2019 at 7:05 pm

Ah no it’s ok when Tory toffs do that.

James Knight

16th December 2019 at 8:19 pm

The language is less important if they actually respect what people voted for. But when that language is weaponised to undermine democratic principles, that is something else entirely. Call me a pleb all you like if you can get us out of the EU. But telling me what we voted for means nothing because we are a bunch of plebs is more than just an insult.

It was Remainers who tried to turn Brexit into a culture war, Sadiq Khan called it “Project Hate”. They first turned into a culture war on the voters and then into a culture war on democracy itself.

Jane 70

16th December 2019 at 5:00 pm

We, the stubborn plebs, have stuck a communal 2 fingers up to this truly awful bunch of entitled, affluent posturing snobs and they haven’t the basic decency nor insight to accept the evidence of just how reviled they are by ordinary folk.,who have endured 3 years’ worth of parliamentary shenanigans, lecturing, obfuscation and legal interference.

While relieved and pleased at the massive rejection of woke/faux marxist hucksterism peddled by wealthy hypocrites , I was truly sorry to witness the loss of thoroughly decent Labour MPs like Field, Hoey, Flint and Mann.

They had integrity, honesty and a genuine commitment to the interests of their constituents and the widespread support for leave.

Now we see the party bigwigs and fellow travellers in their true colours: celebs’ hissy fits, legal threats, bullying ,sulking , blame games and infighting.

We are well rid and can only hope that some semblance of sanity , maturity and reflection will cause the left’s movers and shakers to finally acknowledge that the buck stops with them. I won’t hold my breath.

Stanley Jacobson

16th December 2019 at 5:55 pm

Just brilliant! It needed to be said.

jan mozelewski

16th December 2019 at 7:41 pm

excellent analysis.
The period of reflection appears to consist entirely of putting the blame on everyone but themselves.
They now see to underline the un-democratic stance that lost them any chance of power by implying (for this is what it is) that those who voted Tory were racist/stupid/too old/too thick and shouldn’t have the vote at all. Ah, the narrative that works so well at silencing people on social media…but not so well on voters’ doorsteps or in the privacy of a secret ballot.
Is may just be me, but the statements issuing forth from the tantrum set are as bad or worse than what Thornberry is alleged to have said. And yet we are supposed to believe she is out-raged at what Flint said.
They continue to keep digging their own grave as a party and seem incapable of understanding that whatever distaste they proclaim for ordinary citizens, it is a feeling that is returned in spades. And short of the whole-sale reversal of universal suffrage there is only going to be one winner in that stand-off.
They fools have ignored people’s genuine concerns for decades and have wilfully betrayed their trust and now they have the sheer brass neck to posture like this.
Flint was spot on in her comments the other morning. I could see how she meant every word and it was high time it was said from within the Labour ranks.
The more these dreadful hypocrites preach the more loathsome the show themselves to be and they simply can;t stop themselves it seems.

Jim Lawrie

16th December 2019 at 10:56 pm

The only thing around which they can unite is their hatred of us. They will still have that come The New Year. They cannot be rid of it. But we are happily rid of them.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

18th December 2019 at 10:42 pm

‘Us’? Do you speak for 65 million people? You barely speak for yourself.

steve moxon

16th December 2019 at 4:34 pm

So is the penny dropping with those who would reform the Left that hatred towards the masses has long been brewing through the masses not supporting the Marxist project, and the Left blaming the masses for the failure of Marxist philosophy instead of working out why the philosophy completely fails to fit reality?
‘Identity politics’ (‘PC’ — though this is its mode of enforcement) is political-Left major backlash against ordinary people beginning way back in the 1920s/30s, in the wake of no European ‘revolution’. In shifting the blame away from Marxist theory and its adherents, and on to those the theory had prescribed and predicted would have been the beneficiaries — the workers — if only they had responded accordingly; then the cognitive-dissonance within the political-left mindset caused by this crisis to an extent was salved.
The rationalisation by Marxists was first by invoking Freud’s now discredited notion of ‘repression’ to attempt to explain a supposed impact on ‘the workers’ of ‘capitalism’. With most workers (the group considered the principal ‘agents of social change’ in a ‘revolution’) being male, then the theoreticians had in mind the male as ‘head’ of the family. It was a simple extension in political-Left imagination for ‘the worker’ to change from being the putative conduit of the impact of ‘capitalism’ to its embodiment, leaving women to be deemed a replacement supposed ‘oppressed’ and ‘disadvantaged’ ‘group’.
This implausible and unfalsifiable non-scientific nonsense mainly festered within academia until the co-option after 1968 by the political-Left of a movement which appeared to be akin to the revolutionary activity predicted by Marxism: the US ‘civil rights’ movement. This added to the ‘new oppressed’ the category ‘non-white’, which like that of women could be envisaged as an inversion of a retrospective stereotype of ‘the worker’. In the wake of the similarly seeming revolutionary Stonewall riots of 1969, the ‘gay rights’ lobby was also co-opted to further add to the abstract demonised aspects of ‘the worker’, thereafter retrospectively stereotyped as male plus ‘white’ plus heterosexual.
The strands of the ‘new oppressed’ combined in a new (neo-Marxist) conceptualisation to account for these political shifts after the fact, which came to be termed ‘identity politics’ (or more pejoratively but accurately, ‘cultural Marxism’, and latterly dubbed ‘modernising’ [sic] in political parties). The deemed ‘groups’ replacing ‘the workers’ – subsequently expanded to embrace the disabled, the elderly, trans-sexuals and the obese – are abstractions rather than groups per se, and in any case far too heterogeneous to be in reality ‘oppressed’ or ‘disadvantaged’; providing a window on the sophistry and origin of this politics as other than it purports.
This absurd situation arose through the political-Left’s forcing of specific conflicts to be considered as emblematic of Marxist struggle, rendering them as generalisable, with their participants abstractions. US Afro-Americans became generic ‘ethnic minorities’, and ‘gays’ became ‘homosexuals’. The history of feminism — not just of the ‘third wave’ — is of upper-class or upper-middle-class women demanding to somehow to be the same as their very high-status husbands and males within their rarefied social milieu; which even if it could make any sense given profound sex difference, hardly was a basis of anything comparable for the great majority of either women or men. The upshot is that ‘identity politics’ is a ‘gravy train’ for the already privileged. Worse, it is an instrument of oppression against the very ‘group’ perennially disadvantaged and the victim of prejudice, which formerly had been identified as worthy of the liberation Marxism promised: the vast majority of (necessarily lower-status) men.
The pretence to egalitarianism is perfect cover for what ‘identity politics’ actually is: the very perennial and ubiquitous elitist-separatism the political-Left ethos attacks and denies; rendered a quasi-religion, being an ideology in the wake of the Christian notion of ‘the promised land’ in the utopia/dystopia of equality-of-outcome.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

17th December 2019 at 7:26 pm

I give your essay a C+.

Robert Johnson

19th December 2019 at 8:42 am

Zenobia – a hasty and inadequate response. Irritation and lashing out gets nowhere. These ideas put forth by Steve have gained ground. So I repeat: I’m keen for them to be “picked apart if anyone can.” So this is an invitation to you…can you offer something by way of content, something more than short one line sentences?
Also explain why you think I want to “Destroy democratic opposition in England”

Robert Johnson

18th December 2019 at 6:14 pm

Steve, good work, it needs to be put out there more often and discussed or picked apart if anyone can. Get a death grip on the tail of this tiger, especially now when the tiger is wheezing

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

18th December 2019 at 10:41 pm

Go for it, Robert! Destroy democratic opposition in England once and for all!

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