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The trans ideology is a threat to womanhood

Denying biological sex undermines the very foundation of feminism.

Meghan Murphy

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On Saturday 2 November, a few dozen protesters gathered outside the Pan Pacific hotel in Vancouver chanting, ‘No TERFS, No KKK, No fascists’. One young white woman held a sign saying, ‘White feminism ain’t shit’. The equally as white woman next to her carried a guillotine made out of cardboard, with the words, ‘Step right up, TERFs’, written on it. The brave young soul wore a ski mask to protect her from accountability. Those under threat, of course, do not share the same privilege.

You might assume these rageful Vancouverites were protesting against some kind of Nazi or white supremacist, threatening to exterminate entire groups of people. But no, these folk were out on a Saturday night with megaphones, blaring sirens, chanting, ‘Hey hey, ho ho, Nazi scum has got to go’, because 300 people were inside to hear a panel discussing media bias in the gender-identity debate. To be fair, it was me, one of the speakers that night, who was the primary subject of their ire, as I continue to dare to insist that women are female, and that our rights matter.

The issue is also that we were discussing gender identity in a critical rather than celebratory way — conversation the left has deemed resolved and untouchable. Either you repeat the words ‘Trans women are women’ ad nauseam — and, when asked ‘What is a woman?’ or ‘How does one go from male to female?’, scream ‘Nazi!’ in response — or you are a blasphemous hatemonger who gets the wall.

That event in Vancouver was the third in a series organised primarily by two women – Amy Hamm and Holly Stamer. They have no particular activist background and simply wanted to have a conversation in Canada about the issue of gender identity and women’s rights. The first event they organised – a panel featuring myself; Lee Lakeman, a long-time feminist activist, and collective member at Vancouver Rape Relief (now retired); and Fay Blaney, an indigenous feminist who has been fighting violence against indigenous women and girls in Canada for decades. The panel itself didn’t focus so much on trans identity as it did on the history of the feminist movement and the importance of women’s sex-based rights. Nonetheless, numerous activists pressured our venue, the Vancouver Public Library (VPL), to cancel our booking. They claimed we intended to engage in ‘hate speech’ and wanted to ‘erase the existence of trans people’. I myself am regularly said to ‘harm’ trans people and to ‘incite discrimination and hatred’.

This is, of course, ridiculous, and clearly many of the activists making these accusations know it, as, if you ask for evidence of this, you will experience a form of ghosting or be told to ‘Educate yourself!’.

The crux of my argument, for the uninitiated, is this: biological males cannot become female. Not only is it impossible to change sex, but there is no reason to. It is okay to be male, and it is okay to be female. You are never ‘born in the wrong body’ — you are simply born in a body, whether you like it or not. As much as I may feel (and behave) like a 25-year-old, my body protests, and no insisting on my part can change that. When my ex-boyfriend was a child, he insisted he was going to be an elephant when he grew up, yet, cruelly, his parents opted not to provide him with trunk surgery. Why sex is believed to be the sole material reality that can be imagined away, I do not know, though I suspect it has something to do with Judith Butler.

When my ex-boyfriend was a child, he insisted he was going to be an elephant when he grew up, yet, cruelly, his parents opted not to provide him with trunk surgery

One of the problems with this debate is that people tend to confuse sex with ‘gender’, and conflate the terms. So, to be clear, ‘sex’ refers only to biology, while ‘gender’ refers to the stereotypes imposed on or assumed of people based on their sex. For example, it is assumed women are more passive, emotional and irrational than men, and prefer dresses over pants, and painful shoes over comfortable ones. We also, it is believed, are inherently drawn to ironing and shopping, and enjoy draping ourselves across hoods of luxury vehicles, preferably while wet and soapy. Men, by comparison, are assumed to be more rational, unemotional and assertive than women, and enjoy practical, comfortable clothing in which they can do things like bend over, walk and sit. It is believed they are naturally inclined towards games that include ball-throwing and catching, are only able to cook things on barbeques, and that they are born with a neurological disorder that prevents them from making plans in advance.

Those of us who are men or women, or who know other men and women, are aware that these stereotypes are not universally true. I love wearing shoes that I can walk in, for example, and have met several men with emotions.

You can be born male and choose to wear make-up and dresses, if you like. Certainly, you can reject stereotypes attached to masculinity by, say, doing the dishes or giggling at jokes that are in no way funny. But that doesn’t literally make you female.

This should not be a controversial thing to say. It should not, in fact, be a thing that must be said at all. But the gods are playing a trick on us, I assume to punish human civilisation for inventing the unicycle, and the kinds of people who ride a unicycle, and it is now controversial to say that only women can have babies and that the penis is a male sex organ.

Last month, the BC Human Rights Tribunal (BCHRT) ruled against a man who brought 15 discrimination complaints against Vancouver estheticians who declined to provide him with waxing services. Jessica Yaniv (né Jonathan) contacted these women via Facebook, claiming to be a woman himself, and asking, in most cases, for a Brazilian bikini wax. Upon learning that their potential client was in fact male — and that, therefore, they were being asked to handle and wax a man’s genitals — the beauticians refused his request. Yaniv claimed this constituted discrimination on the basis of gender identity, as he actually identified as female.

The BCHRT determined that Yaniv was exploiting gender-identity ideology in an attempt to extort money out of women (intentionally targeting immigrant women, as he was revealed to have a racist hate on for ‘immigrants’, but also because he knew these women would be easy targets, as they would feel vulnerable to pressure and would lack social and legal supports). And the case was thrown out.

This is a relief, of course. The women Yaniv targeted suffered enormously as a result of his complaints — the process was incredibly stressful for them and their families; they lost income, and one of the women was forced to close her business as a result. But it is the fact that this happened at all that is troubling. How have we come to a place where a man feels entitled to demand that women touch his genitals, under the guise that he is ‘female’?

While many trans activists have claimed Yaniv is not representative – that he should not be used as an example in order to demonstrate the dangers of gender-identity ideology – he is, in fact, the perfect example. It is precisely this scenario that those of us who have been trying to force a critical conversation about the impact of trans activism and gender-identity legislation on women have been warning would happen. We have said that if any man can claim to be female, then women will no longer be allowed to have boundaries. They won’t be able to say, ‘No, you may not enter our changing room’; ‘No, you cannot stay in this women’s shelter’; ‘No, you cannot be transferred to a female prison’; or, ‘No, I will not touch your “female” scrotum’.

If that oh-so-elusive word, ‘woman’, means nothing, then what does it mean to insist you are one?

Moreover, what women like me have said is that women’s rights cannot exist at all if there is no such thing as a woman. My most common response to those who tell me, ‘Trans women are women’ is, ‘What is a woman?’.

The longstanding definition of ‘woman’ is ‘adult human female’. If a woman is no longer a biological female, but a man who would like to be viewed as a woman, presumably out of a desire to be treated as though he is an insufferable nag every time he tries to discuss things that matter to him, then what actually is a woman? What does that word mean? And if ‘woman’ has become so complicated and ever-changing and impossible to define, then what is the point of having the word at all? If that oh-so-elusive word – ‘woman’ – means nothing, then what does it mean to insist you are one? Why dissolve into a violent rage when referred to as ‘sir’ instead of ‘maam’, if those words are such empty and vague categories?

Feminists have long preferred to believe women aren’t defined by sexist stereotypes, yet trans activists tell us that, in fact, a woman is defined not by having been born female, but by an individual’s proclivity towards the ‘feminine’. The narrative around ‘trans kids’ generally insists that a boy’s preference for princess culture, dresses and dolls is ‘proof’ that he is ‘really a girl’, and young women who reject long hair and pink dresses (and, oftentimes, are lesbians), or who don’t enjoy being sexually objectified, believe, as a result of trans narratives, that they must really be boys. Males who transitioned young often tell stories of being subjected to homophobic bullying as kids; and girls talk about sexual assault, and a deep desire to rid themselves of the bodies they believe led men to abuse, objectify or harass them.

It makes sense that young people would be looking for an explanation for the discomfort they feel about their bodies or the gender stereotypes they feel don’t fit their true selves. And our ‘progressive’ world has offered them an easy answer — but one that too often leads them down a path towards hormone treatment and surgeries, both of which have irreversible impacts, including sterilisation.

I am not opposed to ‘trans people’. What I am opposed to are the sexist narratives surrounding transgenderism. And I am incredibly concerned about the way that gender-identity legislation essentially nullifies women’s rights. You can’t have gender-identity legislation and sex-based rights. Either sex is an immutable thing, or it is determined through self-declaration and nothing more. Either women experience discrimination because they are female, or they experience discrimination because they identify too strongly with feminine stereotypes.

At the end of the day, I don’t really care how you wish to identify as an individual. I do think it’s rather narcissistic to think that your personality is so special it removes you from material reality and the natural world, as it has existed for millions of years. But I’m not interested in stopping you from living your life in a way that feels authentic to you, so long as it isn’t harming others. I do draw the line, though, when your ‘authentic self’ supersedes the rights, safety and dignity of women and girls – when you say women can no longer have safe spaces because a man will literally cease to exist if he is not referred to as ‘she’ and is not allowed to prance around with his dick out in a women’s locker room.

I draw the line when trans people’s ‘authentic self’ supersedes the rights, safety and dignity of women and girls

In October, hundreds of people gathered outside the Toronto Public Library to protest about a talk I was giving inside. I said things like, ‘Women have the right to speak about their sex-based rights, and to discuss valid concerns about the impact of men identifying as women on their safety’. And: ‘Female athletes should not be made to compete with or against male athletes.’ And: ‘Women have specific rights based on the history and reality of sex-based oppression.’ I criticised the Canadian government’s decision to place dangerous male predators in prisons with women, who are already among the most marginalised people in the country. I asked, ‘On what basis do women’s rights exist, if the word “woman” is meaningless? If anyone can identify in and out of femaleness on a whim?’ The rest of my words are equally as reasonable, and out there for all to see.

No matter. What are words when there is hatred to spew? And, indeed, hatred was spewed. Activists screamed, ‘TERF bitch!, and ‘FUCK YOU’, in the faces of women as they left the event. They chanted ‘SHAME’ at attendees. They were, frankly, terrifying. Which is why I had to be escorted by numerous police and two bodyguards through the back entrance to the public library, simply to say that women are real, and that our rights matter.

Every time I speak anywhere, the venue receives violent, often misogynistic threats, as do I and the organisers. Our 2 November event in Vancouver was originally scheduled to take place at Simon Fraser University (SFU), but our sponsor for the booking pulled the plug at the last minute, afraid that violence would take place. With two days to spare, we managed to secure a lovely (and much bigger) room at the Pan Pacific, enabling us to sell over 100 more tickets. But we shouldn’t have to resort to private venues to hold these conversations. Women should be able to speak about their own rights and safety in public venues, without worrying about being beaten, or worse.

The bullies aren’t winning this fight. It may take a while yet, but the tides are turning, and people are losing patience for those who engage in lies and threats to prevent people from using common sense and respectful communication to discuss laws and policy. Turns out women aren’t so passive after all.

Meghan Murphy is a writer based in Vancouver, BC. Her website is Feminist Current.

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Lisa McCue

21st December 2019 at 7:23 pm

Transgender activism also negates the meaning of “man.” If a biologically male human being can become female simply by deciding, then what is a “man?”

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

10th December 2019 at 12:52 am

In the article by Professor Parody in the New Republic linked to by the author of this we see:

“(Not nothing, though: in 1869 Mill already understood that the failure to criminalize rape within marriage defined woman as a tool for male use and negated her human dignity.)”

Except that rape was never not criminalised in marriage.

Consent to sex was given by both husband and wife on marriage, so you didn’t need to get another consent form signed for sleepy or sozzled sex.

And subsequent strife the morning after didn’t invalidate the consent.

But there was no consent to forced sex, as was the case in the infamous case that supposedly ended the automatic consent. In that case a man separated from his soon to be ex wife, who had filed for divorce, broke into her parents home and attacked her. Nothing to do with the presumption of consent in marriage.

However the usual “proof” given that rape was permitted in marriage is an 1800s law that supposedly said sex in marriage wasn’t rape. What the feminist activists don’t tell you, and their useful idiots don’t know, is that law was a correction to a legal blunder during a moral panic over child prostitution when a law was passed raising the age of consent from 12, I think, to 16. Unfortunately they’d forgotten that the minimum age for marriage was 14 (12 for girls?) and so many boys were suddenly guilty of STATUTORY rape during CONSENSUAL sex.

The law that “legalised” rape in marriage merely reversed the accidental and unintended criminalisation of consensual sex involving married girls below the NEW age of consent!

Another example of the propaganda produced by the feminist lobby and regurgitated by the “liberal” media!!!

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

10th December 2019 at 3:26 am

Wow, there’s some interesting feminist ideas from the article about that feminist linked to above (“Why sex is believed to be the sole material reality that can be imagined away, I do not know, though I suspect it has something to do with *Judith Butler*.”)!

If everything is a social construct and everyone should subvert social constructs why should we (the “we” labelled as, and forced into obeying our social programming as, male males born male) not overturn all that programming.

We should we treat women like ladies?

Not hit women?!

And what’s wrong with raping them anyway?!?!

After all, it’s just a social construct!!!!!!

Zippy UK

9th December 2019 at 6:26 pm

The politicization of trans issues (rather than trans itself) is a big problem – but it impacts both genders. It is effectively the erasure of male and female and that has big implications all human rights.

So this we probably agree on – however I think there is something truely RANK about a self identified radical feminist hawking herself around libertarian and conservative facing media having been given the boot from the left when just about everything else she campaigns for is a kick in the teeth for men and those with more traditional values.

Is she going to now advocate for legitimate male only spaces as well ? Is she going to stand up for free speech on issues she does not agree with like mens rights when many feel she is only intrested in standing up for her own free speech and no-one elses?

We have to be smarter than this. NO MORE BLANK CHEQUES FOR FEMINISM.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 3:19 pm

After FIVE rewrites of a QUOTE from THE ARTICLE I give up!

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 3:15 pm

#4

“I do draw the line, though, when your ‘authentic self’ supersedes the rights, s….y and dignity of women and girls – when you say women can no longer have s..e spaces because a man will literally cease to exist if he is not referred to as ‘she’ and is not allowed to [d]ance around with his …. out in a women’s locker room.”

So what about:

“I do draw the line, though, when your ‘authentic self’ supersedes the rights, s….y and dignity of men and boys – when you say men can no longer have sanctuary spaces because a woman will literally cease to exist if he is not referred to as ‘Ms’ and is not allowed to [d]ance around with her ……… out in a men’s locker room.”

nick hunt

9th December 2019 at 11:35 am

When men choose to transition through hormones and surgery, their dream is to become a woman, not one of the other 70 supposed genders. What strangely binary thinking.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 2:31 pm

Surely one of the other 1000110 supposed genders in strangely binary thinking?

Did all this start with some computer geek saying there were 10 kinds of people (those who were men, and those who were women)?!

Andrea Dworkin

9th December 2019 at 4:35 am

I see a lot of anti-feminists commenting here. Feminism is hated because women are hated. Anti-feminism is a direct expression of misogyny; it is the political defense of women hating.

Claire D

9th December 2019 at 9:25 am

If this were true how very convenient it would be for feminists. It would mean they could ignore all criticism, never bother trying to put forward a rational argument to anyone with a different viewpoint. Instead they can march onwards looking to neither left or right in the happy knowledge that they, and only they, are right.

Far too easy Andrea to be true.

nick hunt

9th December 2019 at 11:22 am

I think you may be confusing criticism with hate, as religious and political fanatics invariably do

Zippy UK

9th December 2019 at 6:32 pm

Meghan is criticising trans politics – so why should she get a free ride. I’m not sure their politics is flawless – though they do have rights too. I might agree with some of her points on this issue, but her ideology is an ideology like anyone elses and not above criticism.

Feminism has been rightly criticised for over reach, denying mens legitimate rights and demonizing men. No way is feminism going to get, nor deserving of a free pass.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 3:07 am

#2

“Activists screamed, ‘T€£F bitch!, and ‘FCUK YOU’, in the faces of women as they left the event. They chanted ‘SHAME’ at attendees. They were, frankly, terrifying. Which is why I had to be escorted by numerous police and two bodyguards through the back entrance to the public library,”

What about:

“Activists screamed, ‘misogynist male chauvinist pig!, and ‘FCUK YOU sexist’, in the faces of men as they left the event. They chanted ‘SHAME’ at attendees. They were, frankly, terrifying. Which is why I had to be escorted by numerous police and two bodyguards through the back entrance to the public library,”

Jamie Johnston

5th January 2020 at 4:26 am

So I guess the answer to both versions of events is let’s behave like civilized adults and actually listen to the arguments presented (reasonable and unreasonable). It’s groups of people screaming at and intimidating others and preventing Free Speech, whether on the left or right that most people have little time for.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

8th December 2019 at 5:28 pm

“And: ‘Female athletes should not be made to compete with or against male athletes.’ And: ‘Women have specific rights based on the history and reality of sex-based oppression’.”

This would be “sex-based oppression” like denying women’s specific rights to compete against athletic male construction workers, lumberjacks, police and fire men, and soldiers perhaps?!

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

8th December 2019 at 5:10 pm

Oh, purleeeze:

“I criticised the Canadian government’s decision to place dangerous male predators in prisons with women, who are already among the most marginalised people in the country.”

Except for the men who get far more severe punishments for identical crimes?!

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

8th December 2019 at 5:02 pm

“…women will no longer be allowed to have boundaries. They won’t be able to say, ‘No, you may not enter our changing room’; ‘No, you cannot stay in this women’s shelter’; ‘No, you cannot be transferred to a female prison’; or, ‘No, I will not touch your “female” scrotum’.”

But who started it all by demanding men shouldn’t be allowed to say, MEN will no longer be allowed to have boundaries. That MEN shouldn’t be able to say, ‘No, you may not enter our golf club’; ‘No, women cannot stay in this gentlemen’s club male sanctuary and shelter’…

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

8th December 2019 at 4:57 pm

“Upon learning that their potential client was in fact male — and that, therefore, they were being asked to handle and wax a man’s genitals — the beauticians refused his request. Yaniv claimed this constituted discrimination on the basis of gender identity, as he actually identified as female.”

Did none of them see fit to sear his sex organ?

If he sued they could always point out he was a woman and didn’t have a cock to cauterise!

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

8th December 2019 at 4:51 pm

“…it is assumed women are more… emotional and irrational than men, and prefer dresses… and painful shoes over comfortable ones. We also, it is believed, are inherently drawn to… shopping… Men, by comparison, are assumed to be more rational, unemotional and… enjoy practical, comfortable clothing…”

So why do women continually tell men they buy clothes and wear them to please themselves?!?!

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

8th December 2019 at 12:20 am

The feminists only have themselves to blame for this. They have climbed up the ladder only to pull it up behind them. Utter hypocrites.

Jamie Johnston

5th January 2020 at 4:40 am

I have been following this issue and find most of the prominent feminists speaking out, such as Meghan Murphy to be reasonable and rational. They are saying that biological sex is an objective reality and that is what they base their arguments and politics upon. The fact that they have often only found an audience on the Right willing to host them, shows how much the Left have drifted into ideology that is losing touch with basic reality. I don’t think they have “pulled up the ladder” because they are not denying trans people any rights, they already have full human rights as we all do. Feminists are concerned that some of their own rights based on sex will be diluted. I personally would not support any man declaring himself to be a woman to enter a changing room with my teenage daughters. So I think the Right and Left have common cause here. It’s us old-fashioned types that believe men have penises and women have vaginas. That type of statement apparently could get me banned at all types of establishments these days, but thankfully not at my club.

James Williams

7th December 2019 at 11:37 pm

I do wonder how many actual Trans-Women are attending these protests. From the admittedly light reading of the subject and having watched a view interviews with trans-women it get the impression that A) They show more humility and understanding of the general populations reasoned concerns, one woman was totally lost when some prince of the woke brigade was championing the 100 genders argument. Her no doubt lonely and hard fought journey was being tagged in with the idea of being a starlight cloud gender B) They have suffered for so long and having achieved the transition just want to live and be at peace. Our society is generally very open to all people and I’ve heard trans people say that they are humbled by that and don’t want to cause a stir when there needn’t be one.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

8th December 2019 at 4:39 pm

Wow. You sound as though you have actually spoken to transgendered people. The vast majority of tg people won’t have anything to do with these protests and are just getting on with their lives. Unfortunately, a number of reactionaries (feminist and other bigots) will use this kind of aggressive activity as an excuse for their own illiberal and oppressive activities.

zack smith

7th December 2019 at 11:30 am

I find the trans rights stuff hilarious, it is nice to see feminists being destroyed by their own ridiculous ideology.

Joy Jolie

7th December 2019 at 7:48 pm

Zack, the trans-rights movement is actually an extension of the men’s rights movement and has nothing to do with feminism or feminist goals. It was/is explicitly promoted by a trans-woman to deliberately, methodically and violently propagandize the public to deny material reality, and corrupt the feminist movement as a backlash against major gains that women have made. https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

Feminism as a political ideology was/is a movement that intended to free BOTH men and women from gender stereotypes and to ensure that women were treated with equal dignity, respect, opportunity and bodily autonomy as men. Why is that so terrifying to men? We know why.

The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men. These are the women you assume are feminists – those who cannot / will not change. Women make up 50% of the population. It is immeasurably difficult for any movement to engage 3.5 billion people to agree. However, feminists have made great strides to achieve their goals. We still have a long way to go.

So, based on your statement you seem to be unaware of the following issues that women face every day and which feminism seeks to address:
– sexism inside and outside of the workplace
– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)
– acid attacks on girls and women around the world for refusing male aggression
– female genital mutilation making menstruation, sex and childbirth an agonizing experience
– child ‘brides’ – girls forced into ‘marriage’ with a man who could be her father/grandfather as young as 7
– gonzo porn which degrades women and teaches men to despise women
– sex trafficking – one of the fastest growing criminal enterprises and extremely violent for girls and women who are caught up in it
– prostitution – the vast majority of women in this industry are poor, uneducated and have no other options to survive or feed their children
– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Therefore, I can only conclude that you’re ok with all of these issues. To quote a male feminist:
“If you’re a man upset at being lumped in with rapists, attackers and general arseholes just because of your gender, maybe take it up with the men who give us a bad name instead of the women who have to be on guard 24/7 because of them.

Finally, stop gas-lighting women. Stop gas-lighting feminists and telling women who are fighting these battles against all odds that they deserve it. They don’t. Women don’t deserve it. We’re fighting to make this a better world for everyone. Not just women. It’s time men evolved.

Anna Bolick

7th December 2019 at 9:11 pm

Perhaps it’s time women evolved?

Tim Hare

7th December 2019 at 10:52 pm

You have cut and pasted the same reply five or six times – who are you trying to convince exactly?

Claire D

8th December 2019 at 6:08 am

@Joy Jolie

There are many women who love their men; husbands, boyfriends, fathers, brothers and sons; we have male friends and colleagues who we get on with just fine, there may be a few exceptions, of course, but we deal with them; but we are NOT subservient to any of them. We stand together.

Your list of terrible things that women and girls suffer are HUMAN problems, the consequences of poverty, malnutrition, ignorance, environmental, physical and psychological stresses of different kinds. By viewing these HUMAN problems as being defined by sex, ie men against women, feminists are making things worse.
You argue that the Transgender movement has developed out of the Men’s Rights Movement, but that only developed because of the Women’s Rights Movement.

Capitalism plays a part but ultimately the responsibility for our behaviour is ours alone, by encouraging one sex to blame the opposite sex for all their troubles is divisive, destructive and not the solution.

Alex Ander

8th December 2019 at 4:33 pm

You said: “The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men.”

When you make demonstrably inaccurate statements like this it’s little wonder that the cause of feminism you espouse is so flawed.
You make sweeping generalisations about ALL men and & women in no justifiable way. You appear to condemn all women to be inescapably & inextricably imprisoned in some kind of callous power/ dominance hierarchy. Then, when this isn’t the case, you have to conclude that women are simply “making do” with a “subservient” relationship.
Well, you really do have a very dim view of humankind and ignorant of the many positive and actually very happy relationships that exist – blissfully opting out of this negative diatribe.
Most people have woken up to the negativity of a once admirable cause that feminism once was. Of course, apologists such as yourself raking through the dying embers of a lost cause such that feminism is, will throw out meaningless comments like the one posted here (x5), but they don’t much water as far as I’m concerned….

nick hunt

9th December 2019 at 11:46 am

i recommend you watch ‘The Red Pill’ (the making of which transformed it’s feminist-leaning female director) and consider some hard truths about who is really being devalued, silenced and oppressed in modern Western society. Spoiler: it’s not those promoting the absurdly antagonistic, hate-filled ideology of ‘toxic masculinity’.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 3:36 pm

@ Joy Jolie
7th December 2019 at 7:48 pm – First of four identical apart from the addressee’s name cut and paste comments

How do you reconcile never mind justify these two complaints:

– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)

VS

– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Neil McCaughan

9th December 2019 at 5:57 pm

Feminists don’t speak for women. Only other crazy people.

Titus Groan

6th December 2019 at 10:11 pm

I’m always fascinated about this. The first bit that gets missed is that women trans to men. And currently 75% of those are female to Male trans in the UK. The feminists might like to consider why this might be rather than be obsessed by public toilets.
As the author points out the whole trans things owes a lot to “feminist theory” and the “confusion” of sex and gender which is writ large in the prognostications of many popular western feminists. I’d generally be content to watch the comedy of feminist fight the thing they spawned were it not that it seems many young lives are being damaged by a rapid spread of the notion that the “treatments” are simple and safe.

Joy Jolie

7th December 2019 at 7:52 pm

Titus, the trans-rights movement is actually an extension of the men’s rights movement and has nothing to do with feminism or feminist goals. It was/is explicitly promoted by a trans-woman to deliberately, methodically and violently propagandize the public to deny material reality, and corrupt the feminist movement as a backlash against major gains that women have made. https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

Feminism as a political ideology was/is a movement that intended to free BOTH men and women from gender stereotypes and to ensure that women were treated with equal dignity, respect, opportunity and bodily autonomy as men. Why is that so terrifying to men? We know why.

The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men. These are the women you assume are feminists – those who cannot / will not change. Women make up 50% of the population. It is immeasurably difficult for any movement to engage 3.5 billion people to agree. However, feminists have made great strides to achieve their goals. We still have a long way to go.

So, based on your statement you seem to be unaware of the following issues that women face every day and which feminism seeks to address:
– sexism inside and outside of the workplace
– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)
– acid attacks on girls and women around the world for refusing male aggression
– female genital mutilation making menstruation, sex and childbirth an agonizing experience
– child ‘brides’ – girls forced into ‘marriage’ with a man who could be her father/grandfather as young as 7
– gonzo porn which degrades women and teaches men to despise women
– sex trafficking – one of the fastest growing criminal enterprises and extremely violent for girls and women who are caught up in it
– prostitution – the vast majority of women in this industry are poor, uneducated and have no other options to survive or feed their children
– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Therefore, I can only conclude that you’re ok with all of these issues. To quote a male feminist:
“If you’re a man upset at being lumped in with rapists, attackers and general arseholes just because of your gender, maybe take it up with the men who give us a bad name instead of the women who have to be on guard 24/7 because of them.

Finally, stop gas-lighting women. Stop gas-lighting feminists and telling women who are fighting these battles against all odds that they deserve it. They don’t. Women don’t deserve it. We’re fighting to make this a better world for everyone. Not just women. It’s time men evolved.

Michael Lynch

15th December 2019 at 1:40 am

What on earth is gonzo porn? Is it something to do with having sex with characters from the Muppet Show?

Jamie Johnston

5th January 2020 at 4:50 am

I do find the fact that in the past many radical feminists refused to talk about the biological differences between men and women and even to insist both sexes were identical to be a big problem when dealing with the Trans issue. The arguments Feminists now are using against trans ideology are all based on biology, which I agree with. But now we have a very confused younger generation who are seriously accepting the idea that biological men and women don’t exist. This seems to have been the result of the “success” of Feminist theory. Judith Butler, a radical Lesbian Feminist has written all the Gender Theory backstory that men in dresses are using to claim that “Woman” is nothing more than a gender performance – a Feminist concept.

Mark Williams

6th December 2019 at 9:52 pm

This from a woman who once suggested a curfew for men, somehow ignoring the 1000 immigrant men who were responsible for the Cologne incident a few years ago.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/01/07/its-time-to-consider-a-curfew-for-men/

Murphy reaps what she sows. She is a disgusting misandrist who pushes the usual feminist fantasies.

The trans issue is utterly ridiculous. However, it’s useful idiots such as Murphy, gender studies acolytes, the media, and cowardly politicians — all pushed by political correctness the Left’s march through the institutions — who are to blame… not to mention over 70 years of debunked “academic” work (John Money, Bindle, Simone whatshername, etc.) to promote the social constructions nonsense that permeates our society.

Here in Melbourne, this rubbish will cost me tens of thousands of dollars in order to send my children to private schools. Public schools teach gender is a social construct under the controversial Safe Schools programme.

Well done, Meaghan. Decades of ideological feminist garbage has led us here, and you were a part of it, yet you cling to feminism… still failing to see the useful idiot it made — and continues to make — of you.

zack smith

7th December 2019 at 11:32 am

The biggest threat to women in Western Europe is the rise of Islam. Yet feminists either turn a blind eye or actively support Islam. It is bizarre.

nick hunt

9th December 2019 at 11:49 am

A culture that defers to women will ultimately be replaced by one that doesn’t

Esau Bloggs

20th December 2019 at 2:50 pm

Yes, it is bizarre. Perhaps there is a connection with the recent 50 Shades of Gray phenomenon.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

1st January 2020 at 7:37 pm

Well said, Zack. We all know why feminists attack easy targets like tg people but say nothing about FGM and the mistreatment of women in Arab and Islamic cultures. Standing against Islamofascism can get you killed.

Jamie Johnston

5th January 2020 at 4:58 am

I really wouldn’t call Trans Activists “easy targets” when they are constantly threatening rape and violence to women all over social media. I haven’t seen anyone in the UK in the government or at any level in authority take a meaningful stand against the dangers within Islamic ideology. I don’t think Feminists are the only cowards there. Everyone is terrified by their death treats and to be treated like Salman Rushdie. The Tories have been in power for a decade and as EU immigrants have left due to Brexit we have seen a big increase in immigration from outside Europe, many of whom will be Islamic. So the Tories are continuing to stand by as our Islamic population grows.

Jill W

6th December 2019 at 8:20 pm

Most heterosexual women I know were appalled at the selective outrage of many feminists – coming late and grudgingly to reporting the Cologne New Year attacks, working class women waiting tables being overlooked by, mainly celebrity, ME TOO, the cruel negating of the worries experienced by many heterosexual men.
Loving the men around us, shrieking and hating played no part. Yes, we got twitchy but refrained from hysterical – no assumption of womb privilege.
It was simply we sensed being a bit of a lad was preferable to being a bit of a slapper.
It’s the language thing, always a giveaway. And Meghan Murphy seems to be experiencing a lot of that.

Michael Lynch

6th December 2019 at 7:31 pm

I have a real hard time coming down off the fence on this. The irony of modern feminists getting a taste of their own medicine from creatures of their own making is just too delicious to give up. On the other hand, I recognize the viciousness behind the trans campaign and how unhinged it is. Mind you, maybe the one set of Nazis will cancel out the other and the rest of us can get on with our lives in peace.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

6th December 2019 at 7:01 pm

Why this hysteria? So-called ‘transgendered’ people constitute a tiny minority within society. The real ‘threat’ to women comes from the many hetero men who persist in viewing women primarily as sex toys. This is a perennial, age-old issue that has nothing to do with the presence of a few thousand ‘transexuals’ in society (tg behaviour is, in any case, also a feature of all human cultures).

Ireland changed the law to allow tg people to gender self-identify without any of the media-induced mass hysteria we see in the UK. It seems that the Irish are more sophisticated, and less prone to hysteria, than their excitable and somewhat immature British neighbours.

Mark Houghton

6th December 2019 at 9:22 pm

“The real ‘threat’ to women comes from the many hetero men who persist in viewing women primarily as sex toys” – OK, we men will stop viewing you as ‘sex toys’ (whatever the hell that means when you women stop dressing up to increase your sexual market value – high heels, makeup, push up bras, flattening underwear. Do we have a deal?

Tim Hare

6th December 2019 at 9:50 pm

Whether anyone is hysterical or not is beside the point. Transgender people are demanding rights. You seem to think that because they are small in number that their claims are unimportant.

Does self-identification in Ireland automatically give them access to toilets, prisons, change rooms and refuges? This is what they seem to want and why there is a feminist backlash. The real issue is whether those places need to be segregated according to gender at all. If not, then there is no debate to be had.

Women are not under threat from men who have certain views about them. They are quite able to make up their own views about themselves and present valid arguments to back them up.

The Reals

7th December 2019 at 6:03 pm

No wonder women are losing so much ground. You’re doing it to yourself. I am a man. I’ve been happily married for 15 years. No I do not view women as sex objects. That is a nonsense statement with zero basis in fact as it applies to me. YOU certainly have no basis or evidence for this claim. But you make it anyway. Kind of like when a guy says he’s actually a woman. No basis in fact but he says it anyway. Leaving it to us to decide which fact less claim we want to accept. And I’d rather accept the one that makes someone else something they’re not, rather than me. Because I know the truth about me and who I am. So there you go. Men CAN be women. Sorry if that offends you but you started us down this road, not me. At least now you’ll have some ‘women’ who are capable of facts and logic and strategy. Because your strategy, THIS strategy of floating cruel and untrue decrees about ALL men, opened the door for all of this.

And btw the Irish are only buying this because Google has taken over half their economy and bought their government. Check your facts. (A hilarious statement in hindsight)

Next time you go to the restroom say hi to Steve for me. I’m still bummed that she quit the rugby team

A Marshal

9th December 2019 at 3:49 pm

The Judge held that the Irish State had failed to respect Foy’s rights under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights by not providing any mechanism for her to obtain a new birth certificate in her female gender.

Peter Lavington

6th December 2019 at 5:48 pm

If I were a top woman tennis player I’d be pretty annoyed. Federer could suddenly decide he is a woman and become a top player. If this madness continues all ‘women’ in sports will be men.

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

6th December 2019 at 7:02 pm

The sad thing is that you think that this is likely to happen.

A Marshal

9th December 2019 at 3:55 pm

I once took my pre- puberty boys football team to play in a netball tournament. It was all girls teams – but they hadn’t thought to exclude boys formally My boys had NEVER played netball before. They annihilated each girls team until the final. The mothers of the girls were seriously upset. And then……

Mark Houghton

6th December 2019 at 9:24 pm

I for one can’t wait for the first winner of the ladies single titles at Wimbledon to have meat and two veg.

Michael Lynch

15th December 2019 at 1:43 am

I thought that had already happened!

The Reals

7th December 2019 at 6:04 pm

Great news. Because they’ll finally be watchable. Ever seen the crowds at WNBA games?

James Knight

6th December 2019 at 4:33 pm

People mocked Trump for his tweet with his head on the body of Rocky. But maybe that is just how he “identifies”. And all leftists should be obliged recognise that.

Danny Rees

6th December 2019 at 4:09 pm

I disagree with this but that’s trans muhsoggynesssss

Neil McCaughan

6th December 2019 at 12:33 pm

If ever two bunches of shrieking dysfunctional weirdos deserved each other, then it’s feminists and trannies.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 2:05 pm

While not offering any solutions, your comment cheered up my lunchtime snack.
Thank you!

Mike Peterson

6th December 2019 at 5:18 pm

Hahaha – that was funny.
Whilst I agree the whole trans thing has gone crazy, it seems to escape feminists that They (the more radical trans lobby) are using the same MO feminism has for the last 10 – 20 years.
It is quite amusing to now hear them complain about it.
What goes around comes around, the left will eat itself etc. etc.

Titus Groan

6th December 2019 at 10:19 pm

Being rather old I can assure you feminists were using the same MO in the 1970s . As you say there is a huge case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Claire D

6th December 2019 at 10:27 am

What is missing in this article, which contains plenty of facile feminist ideology by the way, is the fact that Transgender Ideology is supported by Western governments. Is this because they are all Left-wing and Woke ? or is it because it is economically worthwhile for them to do so ? I think it is the latter. There are profits to be made. To thoroughly equalise the sexes must make financial sense or Transgender Ideology would not have been adopted so wholeheartedly that it is even being promoted in Primary Schools.

K Tojo

6th December 2019 at 11:05 am

So that’s it! The transgender mania has all been a crafty capitalist strategy. Those profiteering money-grubbers have been orchestrating the whole mad circus. We’ve all been focusing on the wrong enemy. Now we know who to blame. Western governments are riddled with pseudo-progressive profiteers!

On the other hand – never underestimate the mental contortions a Leftwinger can go through in order to convince themselves of the moral purity of their chosen philosophy.

Claire D

6th December 2019 at 2:50 pm

KTOJO

What is it about putting words into my mouth ? Why don’t you try reading the comment twice before replying to make sure you’ve really understood.

I have not suggested that there is a ” capitalist conspiracy “. What I have suggested is that politicians follow the money. Transgender ideology has inevitably arisen out of Feminist ideology and the government are willing to support it because it’s easier, it appeals to the Government’s so called progressive agenda, and there is an opportunity to make money.

Claire D

6th December 2019 at 2:52 pm

” capitalist strategy ” I should have quoted.

The Reals

7th December 2019 at 6:11 pm

It creates a new voter class. They might organize and start a PAC. They might want new right that will give more power to the government in making and enforcing them. New social programs to skim. New hate crime laws to revenue generate. And more self censorship by us boring old cisgender normies. So of course pols love it. Have you not figured out yet that all politics is is taking money and power in exchange for making ofgicial excuses for literally anything.

Claire D

8th December 2019 at 9:02 am

Yes, I had’nt thought of that. I was thinking of giant pharma like F erring Pharmaceutical s, who produce and market hormone blockers which are used on children, and have just donated £100,000 to the Lib Dems. And the international law firm D entons, who have produced a report, Only Adults? aimed at LGBT+ activists on how to promote Transgender Ideology stealthily and effectively.

Tim Knight

6th December 2019 at 9:57 am

Thank you for a well reasoned and reassuring article and also for your courage in stating and standing up for truth.
However –
Unicycles? why single them out? Have at look at Ed Pratt a free and happy spirit who has unicycled around the world. God loves unicyclists.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 10:41 am

If God had meant us to go around on one wheel, we’d all have been born with one leg and one threaded stump.

Tim Knight

6th December 2019 at 10:45 am

This spat could get nasty.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 2:00 pm

Only if your stump is reverse-threaded.

steven brook

6th December 2019 at 9:38 am

I like the term “assigned at birth”. As if some arbitrary assumption was made rather than recording the obvious. My wife worked for 30 years as a registrar and in all that time the busy office only had one intersex birth where there was genuine doubt. This whole trans question is bound up with mental health issues and pandering to people’s fantasies is not the solution. What happened to the great British tradition of blokes dressing up as women in the privacy of their own home and enjoying a quiet pipe while wearing stockings and stilettos?

Matt Ryan

6th December 2019 at 8:47 am

Karma. You reap what you sow. Oh dear, feminists- how does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot?

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 9:14 am

Even if accurate, Matt – somewhat unhelpful.

Matt Ryan

6th December 2019 at 10:05 am

How is it unhelpful? Feminists were told that making arbitrary differences important and destroying the concept of a family unit would lead to adverse consequences – but it didn’t stop them. Now others are using the same tactics and they don’t like it. Well, hard luck – no sympathy or helpful suggestions for them. They got themselves into this, these brave smart women can get themselves out of it again.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 10:36 am

I suppose I meant ‘unhelpful in that it harks back to a previous problem and omits any suggestion of what to do about this one’. If, that is, a solution is to be had. Since feminism (even the radical sort) didn’t go away, I don’t know why there’s any expectation that this utter nonsense will disappear any time soon. (And I’m usually optimistic by nature.)

Claire D

6th December 2019 at 10:42 am

I’m not sure that it is unhelpful to make the point about feminists bringing it on themselves. By doing so we can identify the basic falseness of feminist ideology which has led directly to transgender ideology. In which case we can identify the fundamental mistake which needs to be rectified.
It also means that at some point feminists will have to face up to the fact that they are wrong.

Meanwhile the adherents of both these ideologies will have to fight it out.
Personally my sympathies are confined to the rest of us, men, women and particularly children, who have got to find a way through without being overly influenced by the craziness of both.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 2:03 pm

“the point about feminists bringing it on themselves”
Indeed; however, this latest shenanigans surely affects all women, not just the more rabid feminists?

Claire D

6th December 2019 at 2:32 pm

I agree with you Ven, but with governments supporting these ideologies I cannot think of a solution, except to fight it legally in court whenever the opportunity presents itself. I cannot understand why trans activists are allowed legally to intimidate women like this, but they can. Western governments seem to be indifferent to the problem.

Perverted Lesbian

6th December 2019 at 1:42 pm

Don’t let your bitterness get in the way of reasoned argument.
Not all women are feminists in the way you wish to view them, pretty much like not all men are rapists.
But to think that ‘Women’ in their entirety deserve to be punished cos a handful of ass holes took feminism too far, then you are a bit of a jerk.

Philip Humphrey

6th December 2019 at 8:30 am

This seems to me to be one of the evil fruits of identity politics. In many ways the feminists helped to start it with ” the personal is the political”. The problem is every group eventually sees itself as a victim and treats other groups as the enemy. The feminists have played this game a long time against men. Now they’re getting a taste of their own medicine from the Trans activists. And so on and so on. It doesn’t go anywhere good, whether it’s identity politics based on race, sex, sexuality or whatever.

Ven Oods

6th December 2019 at 10:39 am

” evil fruits of identity politics”
Careful… word combinations like that could earn you a visit from our non-crime-hate-speech investigative constables.

Jamie Johnston

5th January 2020 at 5:05 am

Yes, the Christian religion has been abandoned as an ideology by most in the UK and is currently mocked and scorned. Yet within Christianity there are many important ideas that bring us together: we are made in the image and likeness of God (in our reason and intellect), we are all equal, we are brothers and sisters, we should love one another, even those hard to love, we should have compassion, mercy and forgiveness and that marriage and the family are very important and the essence of what society is built upon. It currently seems that our culture is being formed by the Twitterverse and a harshness where there is never any mercy or forgiveness and we all belong in a hierarchy of victimhood.

BlueSkySeas FairWeatherSailor

6th December 2019 at 8:13 am

Supremacist feminists who in reality aim for privilege and advantage to women above men rather than equality of opportunity are reaping the whirlwind, as more boys and men see that being labelled a women makes your life far easier in the West.

Although I agree with much of what Meghan states, it is the supremacist feminists who have no interest in equality of opportunity for women and men, that have got us here.

Jill W

6th December 2019 at 7:41 am

Many are still in a locked into a place where it is not, necessarily, they who will disapprove of sharing their changing rooms but the disapproval will come from their partners who ‘look after’ them.

Tim Hare

6th December 2019 at 5:29 am

It seems that the ‘rights’ of which these feminists speak can be boiled down to toilets, change rooms, prisons and refuges. Why should any of these things be based on gender at all? Why can’t both genders share the same toilets, change rooms, prisons and refuges? If asked the feminists and many other women would say it is because men cannot be trusted because they are fundamentally flawed when it comes to human respect for women.

We already have unisex toilets. In a cubicle no one knows what gender you are. We can have unisex change rooms with cubicles to protect privacy. Prisons should be like the rest of society where men and women have to get along with each other. Refuges should exist for both genders and there is no need to separate them.

Feminists want these distinctions because it helps perpetrate their general distrust of men. Without them the society would be saying that men and women are equal and should be trusted equally. If there are crimes then they should be dealt with by the law and not by segregating the genders.

Without these separate facilities the transgender people have no cause for complaint. By maintaining women’s ‘rights’ feminists are creating the ground for transgender activists to become more outspoken and noticeable than they need to be. They are giving them oxygen which they should not have. A true transgender person will not be perturbed by the loss of gender-based facilities – it is only the insecure trans person who needs these affirmations of their changed gender.

BlueSkySeas FairWeatherSailor

6th December 2019 at 8:12 am

Supremacist feminists who in reality aim for privilege and advantage to women above men rather than equality of opportunity are reaping the whirlwind, as more boys and men see that being labelled a women makes your life far easier in the West.

Although I agree with much of what Meghan states, it is the supremacist feminists who have no interest in equality of opportunity for women and men, that have got us here.

Joy Jolie

7th December 2019 at 7:51 pm

Blueskysease, the trans-rights movement is actually an extension of the men’s rights movement and has nothing to do with feminism or feminist goals. It was/is explicitly promoted by a trans-woman to deliberately, methodically and violently propagandize the public to deny material reality, and corrupt the feminist movement as a backlash against major gains that women have made. https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

Feminism as a political ideology was/is a movement that intended to free BOTH men and women from gender stereotypes and to ensure that women were treated with equal dignity, respect, opportunity and bodily autonomy as men. Why is that so terrifying to men? We know why.

The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men. These are the women you assume are feminists – those who cannot / will not change. Women make up 50% of the population. It is immeasurably difficult for any movement to engage 3.5 billion people to agree. However, feminists have made great strides to achieve their goals. We still have a long way to go.

So, based on your statement you seem to be unaware of the following issues that women face every day and which feminism seeks to address:
– sexism inside and outside of the workplace
– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)
– acid attacks on girls and women around the world for refusing male aggression
– female genital mutilation making menstruation, sex and childbirth an agonizing experience
– child ‘brides’ – girls forced into ‘marriage’ with a man who could be her father/grandfather as young as 7
– gonzo porn which degrades women and teaches men to despise women
– sex trafficking – one of the fastest growing criminal enterprises and extremely violent for girls and women who are caught up in it
– prostitution – the vast majority of women in this industry are poor, uneducated and have no other options to survive or feed their children
– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Therefore, I can only conclude that you’re ok with all of these issues. To quote a male feminist:
“If you’re a man upset at being lumped in with rapists, attackers and general arseholes just because of your gender, maybe take it up with the men who give us a bad name instead of the women who have to be on guard 24/7 because of them.

Finally, stop gas-lighting women. Stop gas-lighting feminists and telling women who are fighting these battles against all odds that they deserve it. They don’t. Women don’t deserve it. We’re fighting to make this a better world for everyone. Not just women. It’s time men evolved.

BlueSkySeas FairWeatherSailor

8th December 2019 at 10:07 am

Joy Jolie, cut n pasting your same wrong argument 5 or more times only makes you appear obsessional and closed of mind.

Supremacist feminists like you who seek advantage and privilege above men rather than equality of opportunity have led to the growth of the destructive trans movement.

You and your ilk are to blame for this nonsense with your similar destructive separatist identity politics nonsense.

H McLean

6th December 2019 at 5:19 am

:…The brave young soul wore a ski mask to protect her from accountability…” The whole of feminism, surely, has been to relieve women of the burden of personal accountability, from legal issues to their own poor life choices and everything in between.

The trans rights issue is contradictory and unhinged, but it must be noted that it sprung from the intersectional ideology that feminists were only to happy to embrace when it suited their own needs. It’s also worth noting that trans activists berating and demonising of TERFs – or garden variety feminists, if you like – is eerily similar to what feminists have been doing to men since the early 70s. Welcome to the party.

Yes, Meghan, you are entirely right in your assertions and sound like a voice of reason in a sea of absurdity, but given the regressive, divisive nature of the intersectional left it was only a matter of time before they came for the privileged white woman.

Perverted Lesbian

6th December 2019 at 1:50 pm

I hate current ‘feminism/intersectionality’ etc as much as the next rational person, but that is no reason to not speak out against trans-activist, they are literally insane, I mean that. I think a large section is either mentally ill, or have narcissistic personality disorders and or sociopathic traits, so I believe that it is in the interest of future generations that we push back and try to stop these people from influencing our lawmakers.
Current feminism is not popular, right? I don’t know any that are on board with extreme ideology

ZENOBIA PALMYRA

6th December 2019 at 7:04 pm

It’s about time somebody ‘came for’ privileged white women as they are, like their male counterparts, full of smug bourgeois hypocrisy.

Michael Lynch

6th December 2019 at 7:35 pm

Now that is something I can agree with you on.

Mark Houghton

6th December 2019 at 9:23 pm

‘Came for’ as in swinging from lamposts or sent to some nice Stalinesque re-education camp?

Joy Jolie

7th December 2019 at 7:50 pm

Zenobia, the trans-rights movement is actually an extension of the men’s rights movement and has nothing to do with feminism or feminist goals. It was/is explicitly promoted by a trans-woman to deliberately, methodically and violently propagandize the public to deny material reality, and corrupt the feminist movement as a backlash against major gains that women have made. https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

Feminism as a political ideology was/is a movement that intended to free BOTH men and women from gender stereotypes and to ensure that women were treated with equal dignity, respect, opportunity and bodily autonomy as men. Why is that so terrifying to men? We know why.

The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men. These are the women you assume are feminists – those who cannot / will not change. Women make up 50% of the population. It is immeasurably difficult for any movement to engage 3.5 billion people to agree. However, feminists have made great strides to achieve their goals. We still have a long way to go.

So, based on your statement you seem to be unaware of the following issues that women face every day and which feminism seeks to address:
– sexism inside and outside of the workplace
– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)
– acid attacks on girls and women around the world for refusing male aggression
– female genital mutilation making menstruation, sex and childbirth an agonizing experience
– child ‘brides’ – girls forced into ‘marriage’ with a man who could be her father/grandfather as young as 7
– gonzo porn which degrades women and teaches men to despise women
– sex trafficking – one of the fastest growing criminal enterprises and extremely violent for girls and women who are caught up in it
– prostitution – the vast majority of women in this industry are poor, uneducated and have no other options to survive or feed their children
– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Therefore, I can only conclude that you’re ok with all of these issues. To quote a male feminist:
“If you’re a man upset at being lumped in with rapists, attackers and general arseholes just because of your gender, maybe take it up with the men who give us a bad name instead of the women who have to be on guard 24/7 because of them.

Finally, stop gas-lighting women. Stop gas-lighting feminists and telling women who are fighting these battles against all odds that they deserve it. They don’t. Women don’t deserve it. We’re fighting to make this a better world for everyone. Not just women. It’s time men evolved.

Joy Jolie

7th December 2019 at 7:49 pm

H. McLean, the trans-rights movement is actually an extension of the men’s rights movement and has nothing to do with feminism or feminist goals. It was/is explicitly promoted by a trans-woman to deliberately, methodically and violently propagandize the public to deny material reality, and corrupt the feminist movement as a backlash against major gains that women have made. https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

Feminism as a political ideology was/is a movement that intended to free BOTH men and women from gender stereotypes and to ensure that women were treated with equal dignity, respect, opportunity and bodily autonomy as men. Why is that so terrifying to men? We know why.

The fact that feminism includes and is designed to free ALL women – many of whom don’t have a voice – is bound to include women who are content with their lot as subservient to men. These are the women you assume are feminists – those who cannot / will not change. Women make up 50% of the population. It is immeasurably difficult for any movement to engage 3.5 billion people to agree. However, feminists have made great strides to achieve their goals. We still have a long way to go.

So, based on your statement you seem to be unaware of the following issues that women face every day and which feminism seeks to address:
– sexism inside and outside of the workplace
– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)
– acid attacks on girls and women around the world for refusing male aggression
– female genital mutilation making menstruation, sex and childbirth an agonizing experience
– child ‘brides’ – girls forced into ‘marriage’ with a man who could be her father/grandfather as young as 7
– gonzo porn which degrades women and teaches men to despise women
– sex trafficking – one of the fastest growing criminal enterprises and extremely violent for girls and women who are caught up in it
– prostitution – the vast majority of women in this industry are poor, uneducated and have no other options to survive or feed their children
– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

Therefore, I can only conclude that you’re ok with all of these issues. To quote a male feminist:
“If you’re a man upset at being lumped in with rapists, attackers and general arseholes just because of your gender, maybe take it up with the men who give us a bad name instead of the women who have to be on guard 24/7 because of them.

Finally, stop gas-lighting women. Stop gas-lighting feminists and telling women who are fighting these battles against all odds that they deserve it. They don’t. Women don’t deserve it. We’re fighting to make this a better world for everyone. Not just women. It’s time men evolved.

H McLean

8th December 2019 at 6:07 am

@JOY JOLIE – Feminism is nothing more than pink-tinged communism. Save the cut and paste comments. Feminism hates men, and undermines and demeans women.

Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth

9th December 2019 at 3:23 pm

@ Joy Jolie
7th December 2019 at 7:49 pm

– female infanticide (up to 100 million girls / women missing in our population as a result)

VS

– abortion restrictions which criminalize women, even when pregnancy is the result of rape.

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